RA bug noobs

[magus666]

yday i was attacked by water ouster. we [me and Bubble] hit it but we havent do almost any dmg... [140+ blader and 110 gun] so yea. RA bugger noobs are outta there. my question is - how can we prove who they were since we cant see names? if i senn ya screenie can u GMs guess who they are by checking logs [with certain time, date in game]??? or i must make ouster to see their names???? -_______-

i know at least 2 persons that use RA bug botjh 130+ ;/

p.s. so u goin to repair or ban ppl like that? i wanna know before i start to pay -_____- otherwise its useless to play this game cause even if u hit with 20 plasma nub like that [with RA on and around 100+ str] u will get raped in no time anyway.

[virusxman1]

I agree, it is getting annoying to see people cheating and abusing bugs.

But if they wont do anything about that right now, train train train, get strong and own em then you can say they suck butthole cause you beat em while they werent playing fair >.>

[sunil]

its gonna get fixed so either wait or play global.

[magus666]

well... train? and than own? when i ill get 140 they will be 150+ let seay 300 int rest str. that give about 200 str after quest. 200 str + ra = tons of hp and 50% dmg reduction. good luck with it. unless u are enchanter or healer. well.. if u r anchanter and u get water explosion time after time u are goin to be raped anywya so yea... it suck.

edit: global? lmao... yea. great. heal bug ftl.

[Raikoh]

I know one of their names. BizizZA . He said to me, "if we don't want ra bug, go play global"

[ricoom]

Can some body make a Video about abusing Bugs
U know Ra bug And werewolf bug!!!
I think i can fix em if i would see them!!
Pm me the video location Cuz if u post here then all would see how they are done

[sunil]

il just tell you.
vamps.
when you drain anything above 30% hp, and instantly after right click a wolfhead you will gain the extra damage, def and protection stats of when in werewolf form, but not lose the attack speed and range of attacks you have. it is only meant to leave you with normal attack, glide and drain.
ousters.
you are able to equip earth stones/water stones/fire stones and cast a buff from a different class and can remove the stones to still have the buffs active.
you are not meant to be able to use a buff then remove the stones that were required to activate it.

their working on it anyway.

[Raikoh]

Can some body make a Video about abusing Bugs
U know Ra bug And werewolf bug!!!
I think i can fix em if i would see them!!
Pm me the video location Cuz if u post here then all would see how they are done
That would involve hacking, which we don't like here. Please, leave it too the GMs to figure it out.

[ricoom]

il just tell you.
vamps.
when you drain anything above 30% hp, and instantly after right click a wolfhead you will gain the extra damage, def and protection stats of when in werewolf form, but not lose the attack speed and range of attacks you have. it is only meant to leave you with normal attack, glide and drain.
ousters.
you are able to equip earth stones/water stones/fire stones and cast a buff from a different class and can remove the stones to still have the buffs active.
you are not meant to be able to use a buff then remove the stones that were required to activate it.

their working on it anyway.

Ok
I Basically understand but i think its hardcoded in the game and there is nothing i can do!!

[sunil]

no there isn't. they will do it themselves.

[Creli]

ok you forgot slayers how can they get a class like say a blader then if you just use another wepon and gain lvls on that one.. get a whole nother class... i saw a blader jced and using healing skills -_- same thing as ouster. also if they fix the "bug" saying that if you dont have the stones, then you cant have the skills then that would mean pure earth ousters cant cast on people that dont have earth stones... just saying think about it.

[DoubleD]

I saw a speedhacking slayer too yesterday..
He was yellow poisoned and i saw him teleportin..

[sunil]

ok you forgot slayers how can they get a class like say a blader then if you just use another wepon and gain lvls on that one.. get a whole nother class... i saw a blader jced and using healing skills -_- same thing as ouster. also if they fix the "bug" saying that if you dont have the stones, then you cant have the skills then that would mean pure earth ousters cant cast on people that dont have earth stones... just saying think about it.
lol do you want me to delete that post so people don't flame you?
thats because they use the blade to gain str instead of using the cross to gain int.
they do NOT gain domain levels.

[minajahjah]

why the hell is it called RA bug ? lol.. Reactive Armor bug ? seems so weird.. as the 150 quest as a job change (jc) quest? wtf?!
well.. anyways... why you think that it's a bug (RA)? (i dunno that well)
in what version of DE you can't change stones after buffing ?
(im vampire.. i think werewolf bug is pointless.. :-/ )

[ChangX]

why the hell is it called RA bug ? lol.. Reactive Armor bug ? seems so weird.. as the 150 quest as a job change (jc) quest? wtf?!
well.. anyways... why you think that it's a bug (RA)? (i dunno that well)
in what version of DE you can't change stones after buffing ?
(im vampire.. i think werewolf bug is pointless.. :-/ )

Somehow your avatar and your responses make me not like you. What's up with all the dots? [...] Does it take you that long to just think about your next sentence and how to write it? Also, what are you trying to say about the Job Chang Quest? :mad2:

[KrisDGreat]

Somehow your avatar and your responses make me not like you. What's up with all the dots? [...] Does it take you that long to just think about your next sentence and how to write it? Also, what are you trying to say about the Job Chang Quest? :mad2:

xD

Have to agree, this avatar is quite creepy...

[exyst]

1.why the hell is it called RA bug ? lol.. Reactive Armor bug ? seems so weird..
2.as the 150 quest as a job change (jc) quest? wtf?!
3.well.. anyways... why you think that it's a bug (RA)? (i dunno that well)
4.in what version of DE you can't change stones after buffing ?
5.(im vampire.. i think werewolf bug is pointless.. :-/ )

1.Isn't it like logical ? Know any other ouster skills that start with R and A ?
2.Because it's job change quest, it changes ur job like horus class and stuff xD
3.Because in official servers, where there aren't supposed to be bugs, u cant use it.
4.Global for example.
5.Good for you !

[Justin]

1.Isn't it like logical ? Know any other ouster skills that start with R and A ?
2.Because it's job change quest, it changes ur job like horus class and stuff xD
3.Because in official servers, where there aren't supposed to be bugs, u cant use it.
4.Global for example.
5.Good for you !

lol wellllll theres some more bugs on slayers and others that need to be patched too if the only thing keeping ousters alive is goign away cus u cant barely even level in b2 during night with ra and im level 144 wtf is that huh u can level in b2 as vamp at like level 80 so i dont know how u guys think its fair yes ra helps pk more then anything but i cant even level in b3 soemtimes and the vamp race is 100x more so is the slayers ousters got tnohgint but ra and doesnt make since but its wat ever theyshould just get rid of ousters we wont even be able to play

[J A M]

lol wellllll theres some more bugs on slayers and others that need to be patched too if the only thing keeping ousters alive is goign away cus u cant barely even level in b2 during night with ra and im level 144 wtf is that huh u can level in b2 as vamp at like level 80 so i dont know how u guys think its fair yes ra helps pk more then anything but i cant even level in b3 soemtimes and the vamp race is 100x more so is the slayers ousters got tnohgint but ra and doesnt make since but its wat ever theyshould just get rid of ousters we wont even be able to play
i can't read that.

[Justin]

i can't read that.

lmao my bad

[minajahjah]

RA isn't the only buff skill.. so stone bug would be a bit more appropriate.
Job change IS STUPID NAME ! It's EVOLUTION quest not a friggen job change :-/

Thank you for informing me that it is a bug. Isn't FS an official server ?
And yes, without RA are ousters POINTLESS. They do get their asses kicked by small mobs in R2... not to mention R3... and yet vampires train there alone on 70+ (of course they're not mobbing)
And about my avatar: Love it Or Hate It
And about my writing: dots [...] are representing small breaks in speech. To make a point. :dodgy:

[nitecaster]

obviously vampires can train most places others cant untill higher lvls that is simply because they are like the monsters they get stronger at night an weaker during the days it doesnt really effect there training unlike the other 2 races but tbh ....u dont need the stone bug to kick ass take global for example ousters still kicked alot of ass without that but i doubt the lil extra def on there items made any diff what so ever so suck it up oh btw if u chose fire then its ur own fault for choosing the most retarded type of ouster going :D

[minajahjah]

I mostly play vampire. I have a combat ouster. nothing to do with stones (almost..).
In Global ousters can wear items sooner. Here you can get a Wisp's Coat on on lvl 74 but in Global my Fire ouster had a STR+3 on on lvl 59.
Why else are all the skills in the skill window so mixed up. Skills connected to eachother. SO THAT YOU COULD USE ALL OF THEM (lol..).
If it was like element per element: choose what element and select that bar (like slayers - different classes = different boxes):D
It's just stupid... I'm starting to feel sorry for Ousters. Vampires own lots of place before even reaching lvl 100. Ousters get their asses raped in B3/2 night AND day.:sad:

Even on high lvls (130+) *<--- forgot to add that ^^ *

[Carnelian]

Jesus christ. Stop posting retard.

[Fables]

There needs to be a new rule. If you can't post complete, legible sentences, you're not allowed on the forums.

[Narutov6]

RA isn't the only buff skill.. so stone bug would be a bit more appropriate.
Job change IS STUPID NAME ! It's EVOLUTION quest not a friggen job change :-/

Thank you for informing me that it is a bug. Isn't FS an official server ?
And yes, without RA are ousters POINTLESS. They do get their asses kicked by small mobs in R2... not to mention R3... and yet vampires train there alone on 70+ (of course they're not mobbing)
And about my avatar: Love it Or Hate It
And about my writing: dots [...] are representing small breaks in speech. To make a point. :dodgy:

if you want to be technical its called PROMOTION QUEST so dont correct someone if your going to use the damn wrong name yourself :P

[Spidere]

If they fix stone bug they need 2 make an exeptsion about RoF, without it ousters cant lvl up.

[sunil]

lol its not something you can pick and choose, they will make it like globals because thats the only reasonable way to fix.

[exyst]

RA isn't the only buff skill.. so stone bug would be a bit more appropriate.
Job change IS STUPID NAME ! It's EVOLUTION quest not a friggen job change :-/

Thank you for informing me that it is a bug. Isn't FS an official server ?
And yes, without RA are ousters POINTLESS. They do get their asses kicked by small mobs in R2... not to mention R3... and yet vampires train there alone on 70+ (of course they're not mobbing)
And about my avatar: Love it Or Hate It
And about my writing: dots [...] are representing small breaks in speech. To make a point. :dodgy:

umm no, FS is illegal.

[Flyaaaa]

it's not a bug at all. people just think it's bug because it makes fire/water ouster overpowered.
The game was designed this way. Human buff won't go off if you remove your weapon, but nobody cares about that because that does nothing good for human.

[Carnelian]

it's not a bug at all. people just think it's bug because it makes fire/water ouster overpowered.
The game was designed this way. Human buff won't go off if you remove your weapon, but nobody cares about that because that does nothing good for human.

Are you smoking crack??? If this wouldnt be bug, why the hell do you have to switch stones which is really annoying since thoso skills last 2 mins~ only. So next thing your saying is werewolf bug meant to be in game aswell?

[exyst]

it's not a bug at all. people just think it's bug because it makes fire/water ouster overpowered.
The game was designed this way. Human buff won't go off if you remove your weapon, but nobody cares about that because that does nothing good for human.

you fail trying to be smart

[BaneBR]

Well i saw many complains about slayers and vamps crying about RA skill.
* firsth RA is not a bug it is just a normal protecion skill as calice of enchanter
* RA is a especial buff skill from earth ousters, if you take off this skill you will kill earth class. It is the same thing that u take off paralize from vampires or calice from enchanter...
*If you are getthing rape by ouster just get a green set of cores...
*Ouster is very weak for mobs at night, they need RA badely for leveling at night. Taking off RA you will put most of the ouster to leveling at L1 during the night (this sucks)
* ppl will stop playing with ouster, if skills has being taking off...
*This version off DE extreme is a old version of DK2 so get use and embrace old tricks from DK2 like werewolf bug from vamp, love chain from slayers using bat, changing stones from ousters (well that is not a trick or a bug it is the same thing an slayer take 2 class like 30% healer and 50% gunner...
*if RA skill has change, at least GMs should give free reskill for all ousters too, cause many ousters already got the skill for this propose.
*there is few players playing with ousters most of then are old ousters players if u guys take off ra those player will stop playing DE ex...

[magus666]

omfg. retarded pretty much?

i rly lol @ ppl that compare ra to mix class. cant u see u cant stay mix class forever?
u cant jc mix class.
cant use most powerfull skills.
tbh : mixclass fail.
ra is for all... and it give way too big advantage to ra nubs since it cut dmg. try kill wate ouster 300int 200 str with ra on it with blader, sword, gun or w/e. gl with that.

ra is not a bug?
and maybe wwb is not a bug either? huh?

know teh game b4 u speak.
go check on japan, korean or global.
there is no wwb like we kno from fs/extreme [tho global got some other bugz].

nice try nub.
but u phail. :heh:

edit: if the ra nubs quit playing i will not cry, lol.

[BaneBR]

Noob pal magus666 check DK2 before talking bull shit. DE extreme is the same version of DK2, and the others updates will be based all on Dk2 updates. So there is no DE gl, jp, Ko, or the hell what you think... we are taking about dk2 version...
All class have your strong and your weak point. a good healer for exemple kill all kind of ouster even using RA, and a good int/dex vamp too.
So dodnt blame RA skill for your noob game play. cya

[magus666]

omfg u r rly tard, aren't u?
yea i kno that extreme is same as dk2.

STILL WWB AND RA ARE >>>BUGS<<< no matter what version it is. IT IS BUG.
learn teh difference between legit skills and bugz k? on DK2 version without BUG u should be abel only to glide and normal hit. thats how it is if u dont use bug. i prolly played on FS and other vesion longer than u than stop post tard before u think.

all gotweak and strong points? heh.. well... hi lvl ousters that use stone bug dont have weak points.
u can be water with:
RA [which add def/prot and cut dmg 50% - skill ass good as Air Shield or Sharp Shield on slayer[
gnome whisper [whcih allow u to see invis/snipe like earth/enchanter]
water barrier [which cut magic dmg like u would be water / healer]

so u can make... Fire ouster that have physical dmg reduction, magic dmg reduction and keep Fires massive dmg? where is the weak point here?

LMAO.
come on slayer side bitch and i will make ouster that use ra BUG mkay?
than u see how big advantage it gives, k?

my noob game play? lmao. come on global bitch and try me. :p

[firewall]

well, i think that to ousters stop using RA bug the coat and boot defence should be fixed too, like in global...or japan or korean, watever.
that would help to the people stop using the bug; fix the stone bug and dont fix the items def would not be nice coz vamps are ok to mob...or slayers are strong anyway but ouster to mob at night need high def items or use the bug.

[magus666]

well, i think that to ousters stop using RA bug the coat and boot defence should be fixed too, like in global...or japan or korean, watever.
that would help to the people stop using the bug; fix the stone bug and dont fix the items def would not be nice coz vamps are ok to mob...or slayers are strong anyway but ouster to mob at night need high def items or use the bug.

ur right dude. but dun think they can repair the def of coats on their version [not sure tho].
i would not even flame teh ra users if it only give DEF not dmg red ;/

[Satin]

u can use RA without using bug even when u are water uoster ... but im too lazy to read all this shait...

[kostarica]

ur right dude. but dun think they can repair the def of coats on their version [not sure tho].
i would not even flame teh ra users if it only give DEF not dmg red ;/

if they can't do that then DON"T DARE TO CHANGE SHIT

cuz wtf is this.. if they're going to fix RA bug to make it like "DE kr,jp,global,w/e" then they better fucking update the items to the same def/pro as in those versions... if they can't hten don't bother fixing RA

[exyst]

u can use RA without using bug even when u are water uoster ... but im too lazy to read all this shait...

if ur water and try to use RA u must change stones and this is a bug -_-'

[Fressix]

if they can't do that then DON"T DARE TO CHANGE SHIT

cuz wtf is this.. if they're going to fix RA bug to make it like "DE kr,jp,global,w/e" then they better fucking update the items to the same def/pro as in those versions... if they can't hten don't bother fixing RA

I second that.

[Twisted]

That's not it at all. Def/Pro of the items means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The difference between FS and Global/Jap/Korea is that THE MONSTERS are stronger.

[KrisDGreat]

That's not it at all. Def/Pro of the items means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The difference between FS and Global/Jap/Korea is that THE MONSTERS are stronger.

And i like food.

[TaiM]

And i like food.

:O i like food too!
Let's make a group! :D

[KrisDGreat]

:O i like food too!
Let's make a group! :D

yay! im not the only one!

group name will be...Hmm..FAT KIDS™

[kostarica]

That's not it at all. Def/Pro of the items means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The difference between FS and Global/Jap/Korea is that THE MONSTERS are stronger.

yes that's also true... but you're pretty damn noob to say that def/pro means absolutely nothing

[Twisted]

yes that's also true... but you're pretty damn noob to say that def/pro means absolutely nothing

I'm saying adding 10 def/pro wont do shit.

[kostarica]

it's more than 10... and even 10 makes a difference

[Flyaaaa]

Are you smoking crack??? If this wouldnt be bug, why the hell do you have to switch stones which is really annoying since thoso skills last 2 mins~ only. So next thing your saying is werewolf bug meant to be in game aswell?

Werewolf bug is the only way for dex/str to do any decent dmg. Without it they can't even kill a high lvl fire ouster without RA.

[Flyaaaa]

you fail trying to be smart

And you fail to say anything useful. Explain to me why human buff doesn't go off when the weapon is removed. If that a bug too? How come nobody wants to fix that "bug"?

[Carnelian]

Your saying vamps without WW bug cant kill ousters without RA? LOLZZZZZ.

Btw I killed lvl 210 fire ouster 1vs1 in banatul. With RA.

[Fressix]

Your saying vamps without WW bug cant kill ousters without RA? LOLZZZZZ.

Btw I killed lvl 210 fire ouster 1vs1 in banatul. With RA.

If you're so fucking strong the why the fuck don't you want to allow RA & Reflection ? Fucking pussy.

[DonVito]

Owned.

[Carnelian]

If you're so fucking strong the why the fuck don't you want to allow RA & Reflection ? Fucking pussy.

If your so strong if your so strong :( Cry less fucking immature kid? I never said anything about RA. WW bug should be allowed aswell then but wtf...your jumping up here and starting to fuck with me? Oh boy ..boy ...you have no idea who your fucking with. Let me know whats your in-game name. Calling me pussy was the worst thing you could do.

Id say, gtfo or dont jump to where you dont belong to. Your zero. Not even worth wasting my time here when lvl 10 slayer is insulting me.

[Fressix]

If your so strong if your so strong :( Cry less fucking immature kid? I never said anything about RA. WW bug should be allowed aswell then but wtf...your jumping up here and starting to fuck with me? Oh boy ..boy ...you have no idea who your fucking with. Let me know whats your in-game name. Calling me pussy was the worst thing you could do.

Id say, gtfo or dont jump to where you dont belong to. Your zero. Not even worth wasting my time here when lvl 10 slayer is insulting me.


I ain't crying you little asian cunt. You're the one who's braging in one thread about how strong he is and crying in other thread how unfair the game would be if RA & Ref. would be allowed. You're so full of shit, the toilet's jealous

I'd say start licking cheese from around my purple-headed custard chucker, asian twat.:)

[exyst]

And you fail to say anything useful. Explain to me why human buff doesn't go off when the weapon is removed. If that a bug too? How come nobody wants to fix that "bug"?

Fucking cunt, if the developers of the game set it like that, that your buffs will go off, when u take your stones off, but it isn't like that in 2 private servers, then therefore it's a bug.
And changing slayers weapons doesn't give so big advance to them as the stone bug gives ousters.
So dipshit, think before u say anything.

[KrisDGreat]

Calling me pussy was the worst thing you could do.


Pussy.

[Carnelian]

Pussy.

*Ignoring low level noobs*

[Spidere]

Your saying vamps without WW bug cant kill ousters without RA? LOLZZZZZ.

Btw I killed lvl 210 fire ouster 1vs1 in banatul. With RA.

It must have been a noob fire then

[Carnelian]

It must have been a noob fire then

How about because our lvls are near equal? And vamps arent that weak at high lvl, all you stupid people think ousters are god and shit but they suck when vampires are good skilled and high lvl.

Lvl 200 str vamp -> Any fire ouster. Of course when the vamp is skilled enough.

[Twisted]

Of course when the vamp is skilled enough.

so you mean when twisted is playing? :D

[raimundio]

so you mean when twisted is playing? :D

canadians never win :D

[Spidere]

How about because our lvls are near equal? And vamps arent that weak at high lvl, all you stupid people think ousters are god and shit but they suck when vampires are good skilled and high lvl.

Lvl 200 str vamp -> Any fire ouster. Of course when the vamp is skilled enough.

Long long time ago there were few grate fire ousters like Jacky and zabu they pawned

[w00teR]

Long time ago there was a few strong vamps called Who and the fuck and cares...

[Flyaaaa]

Fucking cunt, if the developers of the game set it like that, that your buffs will go off, when u take your stones off, but it isn't like that in 2 private servers, then therefore it's a bug.
And changing slayers weapons doesn't give so big advance to them as the stone bug gives ousters.
So dipshit, think before u say anything.

No it wasn't set like that dumbass. The Koreans developers thought allowing RA buff on fire and water is overpowered so that they upgraded ouster armor def/protection and removed RA from these 2 classes. But it's not a bug because without the armor adjustment even lvl 150+ ouster can't survive in L2. So you telling me that developers intended ouster to be some dipship that needs to kill lvl 1 monsters in front of Perona to lvl?

I do think before I talk. That's exactly what I said. CHanging slayer weapon doesn't give them a big advantage so nobody cares. Only bitches like you get owned by ouster and come crying about ouster using dual builds. When's the last time you gave a fuck about a healer casting with a sword on and having 300 STR?

[Twisted]

canadians never win :D

should i bring up videos of you dying from a canadian? :D

[drno]

*Ignoring low level noobs*

you suck

[Avenger]

No it wasn't set like that dumbass. The Koreans developers thought allowing RA buff on fire and water is overpowered so that they upgraded ouster armor def/protection and removed RA from these 2 classes. But it's not a bug because without the armor adjustment even lvl 150+ ouster can't survive in L2. So you telling me that developers intended ouster to be some dipship that needs to kill lvl 1 monsters in front of Perona to lvl?

I do think before I talk. That's exactly what I said. CHanging slayer weapon doesn't give them a big advantage so nobody cares. Only bitches like you get owned by ouster and come crying about ouster using dual builds. When's the last time you gave a fuck about a healer casting with a sword on and having 300 STR?

Stats doesn't matter, if you want your ouster can get STR as well. The problem is with skills that are not meant for your class. Ousters have Divine Spirits as well, and that cuts damage 50% to HP 50% to MP.

[raimundio]

should i bring up videos of you dying from a canadian? :D

do i need to remind u it was 6v2 ? :D

[Twisted]

do i need to remind u it was 6v2 ? :D

4:3 and Dream was paralyzing me :D

so 3:3

[raimundio]

4:3 and Dream was paralyzing me :D

so 3:3

yeah right :D

[Twisted]

yeah right :D

+ you're a fag.

:D:D:DD

[raimundio]

+ you're a fag.

:D:D:DD

lie :D

[Flyaaaa]

Stats doesn't matter, if you want your ouster can get STR as well. The problem is with skills that are not meant for your class. Ousters have Divine Spirits as well, and that cuts damage 50% to HP 50% to MP.

If the skills are not meant for fire/water why is dual build even allowed in the first place? The developer would have made a seperate skill tree for all 3 classes. A lot of earth ousters would learn fire skills early on to help them lvl too. But who cares?

I just want to say that allowing RA on fire and water does overpower them, but it'd stupid if the admin removes RA from fire/water without adjusting armor like they did on the Korean server. Anyone who played an ouster knows in this version mage ouster can't even survive L2 without RA.

And of course stat matters=.= you know how much stronger healer are when they get str=.=.. and I am pretty sure a healer isn't meant to yield sword and shield ,,and cast magic with them. And i'm sure healers aren't meant to use their magic equally effective when they have like 100 int and 300 str.

[raimundio]

If the skills are not meant for fire/water why is dual build even allowed in the first place? The developer would have made a seperate skill tree for all 3 classes. A lot of earth ousters would learn fire skills early on to help them lvl too. But who cares?

I just want to say that allowing RA on fire and water does overpower them, but it'd stupid if the admin removes RA from fire/water without adjusting armor like they did on the Korean server. Anyone who played an ouster knows in this version mage ouster can't even survive L2 without RA.

And of course stat matters=.= you know how much stronger healer are when they get str=.=.. and I am pretty sure a healer isn't meant to yield sword and shield ,,and cast magic with them. And i'm sure healers aren't meant to use their magic equally effective when they have like 100 int and 300 str.

r2 without ra is easy :]

[Fressix]

If the skills are not meant for fire/water why is dual build even allowed in the first place? The developer would have made a seperate skill tree for all 3 classes. A lot of earth ousters would learn fire skills early on to help them lvl too. But who cares?

I just want to say that allowing RA on fire and water does overpower them, but it'd stupid if the admin removes RA from fire/water without adjusting armor like they did on the Korean server. Anyone who played an ouster knows in this version mage ouster can't even survive L2 without RA.

And of course stat matters=.= you know how much stronger healer are when they get str=.=.. and I am pretty sure a healer isn't meant to yield sword and shield ,,and cast magic with them. And i'm sure healers aren't meant to use their magic equally effective when they have like 100 int and 300 str.

Omg +rep , you rock !

[magus666]

If the skills are not meant for fire/water why is dual build even allowed in the first place? The developer would have made a seperate skill tree for all 3 classes. A lot of earth ousters would learn fire skills early on to help them lvl too. But who cares?

I just want to say that allowing RA on fire and water does overpower them, but it'd stupid if the admin removes RA from fire/water without adjusting armor like they did on the Korean server. Anyone who played an ouster knows in this version mage ouster can't even survive L2 without RA.

And of course stat matters=.= you know how much stronger healer are when they get str=.=.. and I am pretty sure a healer isn't meant to yield sword and shield ,,and cast magic with them. And i'm sure healers aren't meant to use their magic equally effective when they have like 100 int and 300 str.

omfg are u RLY THAT RETARDED???
u compare healer with str to ra? lol.
u can as well make water. with 300 str and 170 int can u? yea u can. ur dmg will suck [just as str healer does]... but is healer allowed to learn grail/lightness? no. same should be ousters - just like other version. u wanna use ra? sure no problem - its allowed on global/ japan/ korean.... but forget about 140 skills and 150/161 skills cause u will not have enuff fire/water to use it. if u gonna play this way? go on. use RA.
water without 140 skill but with ra is still playable - and can pwn badly - dun belive? pitty u havent seen Frostwire on global... wanna be fire with ra? no problem. but no 150 skill for us.

power comes at cost.
in this matter - ur tamina and liveness come at cost of ur attack skills. and its fione.
its bad tho when u can cast RA and most powerfull skills for free.

just let my gunner use lightness and denial magic mkay?
i will not get mad at RA nubs than. gimme auir shield also and i will not bitch about wwb nubs either lol.

eddit: if u think healer do same dmg no matter int u prolly never met 170+ int healer on your way. int healer with 170 skill. is pretty nasty...

[Raikoh]

omfg are u RLY THAT RETARDED???
u compare healer with str to ra? lol.
u can as well make water. with 300 str and 170 int can u? yea u can. ur dmg will suck [just as str healer does]... but is healer allowed to learn grail/lightness? no. same should be ousters - just like other version. u wanna use ra? sure no problem - its allowed on global/ japan/ korean.... but forget about 140 skills and 150/161 skills cause u will not have enuff fire/water to use it. if u gonna play this way? go on. use RA.
water without 140 skill but with ra is still playable - and can pwn badly - dun belive? pitty u havent seen Frostwire on global... wanna be fire with ra? no problem. but no 150 skill for us.

power comes at cost.
in this matter - ur tamina and liveness come at cost of ur attack skills. and its fione.
its bad tho when u can cast RA and most powerfull skills for free.

just let my gunner use lightness and denial magic mkay?
i will not get mad at RA nubs than. gimme auir shield also and i will not bitch about wwb nubs either lol.

eddit: if u think healer do same dmg no matter int u prolly never met 170+ int healer on your way. int healer with 170 skill. is pretty nasty...
Actually, frost was the only water who used RA bug. Sorry to dissapoint.

[magus666]

:pit wasnt bug -______-
since he couldnt use ice horizon or 150 water skill.
its allowed to make it so. since u loosin a lot for that RA.

Frosty learned RA to be better support water ouster. he was hard to kill by either melee or magic classes and did gr8 job when we had problems with some in vamps :p
if buggers wasnt able to use most powerfull spells they wouldnt use it that much.

learn the difference -_______-
u could do same thing but u decided to go for rof/prom.

[Fressix]

Magus please, you didn't get his point. You see, ousters are DESIGNED the way that there can be mixed elements, if the creator would have wanted that every element could only use it's own skills then he would have made a different skill tree for each one of them. :)

OUSTERS FTW !!:common001:

[WarriorAngel]

Magus please, you didn't get his point. You see, ousters are DESIGNED the way that there can be mixed elements, if the creator would have wanted that every element could only use it's own skills then he would have made a different skill tree for each one of them. :)

OUSTERS FTW !!:common001:

They're designed so you can mix skills, when you remove stones the buff isn't supposed to remain.

[Fressix]

They're designed so you can mix skills, when you remove stones the buff isn't supposed to remain.

If they're designed to be able to have mixed skills then the buff is supposed to remain.

[WarriorAngel]

Yeah, you shouldn't listen to everything your mom says.

[Twisted]

They're designed so you can mix skills, when you remove stones the buff isn't supposed to remain.

If they're designed to be able to have mixed skills then the buff is supposed to remain.

You're dumb, FS IS THE ONLY VERSION THAT CAN DO THAT. Meaning it's a fucking bug that every version has already fixed.

[exyst]

You're dumb, FS IS THE ONLY VERSION THAT CAN DO THAT. Meaning it's a fucking bug that every version has already fixed.

it's pointless trying to explain it to them, they just don't get it.

[Carnelian]

it's pointless trying to explain it to them, they are just retarded

FIXED.

[Flyaaaa]

omfg are u RLY THAT RETARDED???
u compare healer with str to ra? lol.
u can as well make water. with 300 str and 170 int can u? yea u can. ur dmg will suck [just as str healer does]... but is healer allowed to learn grail/lightness? no. same should be ousters - just like other version. u wanna use ra? sure no problem - its allowed on global/ japan/ korean.... but forget about 140 skills and 150/161 skills cause u will not have enuff fire/water to use it. if u gonna play this way? go on. use RA.
water without 140 skill but with ra is still playable - and can pwn badly - dun belive? pitty u havent seen Frostwire on global... wanna be fire with ra? no problem. but no 150 skill for us.

power comes at cost.
in this matter - ur tamina and liveness come at cost of ur attack skills. and its fione.
its bad tho when u can cast RA and most powerfull skills for free.

just let my gunner use lightness and denial magic mkay?
i will not get mad at RA nubs than. gimme auir shield also and i will not bitch about wwb nubs either lol.

eddit: if u think healer do same dmg no matter int u prolly never met 170+ int healer on your way. int healer with 170 skill. is pretty nasty...

DAMN you're fuckign retarded. In the Korean server Epereal's coat (lvl 90 armor in Dk2) has 102 protection. That's more than double of the current version. Fire/water can easily surrive in L5 with that kind of boost. That's why they removed RA from water/fire.


I've never met a high lvl healer? Every high lvl healer in FS has high str. Lvl 170 skill has a few seconds of cooldown and last time a healer posted his test on the DK2 forum, he showed that with 60 more int his dmg didn't even go up by 1.

See guys you know what's good about the Dk2 forum? People acutally post the numbers out so noobs who don't have high lvl chars don't fucking come out here and argue about the most trivial things.

it's pointless trying to explain it to them, they just don't get it.

What the fuck don't your dumbass understand? Korean server ousters has at least double protection/def with the same gear. That's why they don't need RA to survive in high lvl maps.

Do I really need to post pictures of Korean server ouster armors so some of the dumbass here will understand what adjustment they made before removing RA from fire/water? I think I might just need to do that after seeing so much retards.

[Fressix]

FIXED.

You're the exact reason why there still is abortion today. :)


Anyways, I give up, most of these whiners just got owned by ouster occasionally so they let their anger be the judge.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l279/kylabear_muah/whiners.jpg

[exyst]

DAMN you're fuckign retarded. In the Korean server Epereal's coat (lvl 90 armor in Dk2) has 102 protection. That's more than double of the current version. Fire/water can easily surrive in L5 with that kind of boost. That's why they removed RA from water/fire.


I've never met a high lvl healer? Every high lvl healer in FS has high str. Lvl 170 skill has a few seconds of cooldown and last time a healer posted his test on the DK2 forum, he showed that with 60 more int his dmg didn't even go up by 1.

See guys you know what's good about the Dk2 forum? People acutally post the numbers out so noobs who don't have high lvl chars don't fucking come out here and argue about the most trivial things.



What the fuck don't your dumbass understand? Korean server ousters has at least double protection/def with the same gear. That's why they don't need RA to survive in high lvl maps.

Do I really need to post pictures of Korean server ouster armors so some of the dumbass here will understand what adjustment they made before removing RA from fire/water? I think I might just need to do that after seeing so much retards.

then wtf are u doing here, if Dk2 forum is so good ? dipshit.
and where did u see me saying anything about taking out stone bug without changing def and pro of the coats dumbnut. Only thing i said was that the stone change thing IS a bug.
Now GTFO !!

[Flyaaaa]

then wtf are u doing here, if Dk2 forum is so good ? dipshit.
and where did u see me saying anything about taking out stone bug without changing def and pro of the coats dumbnut. Only thing i said was that the stone change thing IS a bug.
Now GTFO !!

If it's a bug why did Korean GM compensate ousters with boosted def/protection? Wouldn't they have just banned all the "RA noobs" instead?? Obviously the GM originally intended RA for all ousters that's why their armor was so weak.
I'm here to pwn noobs like you.

[exyst]

If it's a bug why did Korean GM compensate ousters with boosted def/protection? Wouldn't they have just banned all the "RA noobs" instead?? Obviously the GM originally intended RA for all ousters that's why their armor was so weak.
I'm here to pwn noobs like you.

If it was first intended to not cancel the buffs when u change stones then it wasn't a bug, but after they compensated it by boosting def/pro of coats and you could still use it in some servers, then its a bug !
now srsly fuck off never come back :)

[Flyaaaa]

If it was first intended to not cancel the buffs when u change stones then it wasn't a bug, but after they compensated it by boosting def/pro of coats and you could still use it in some servers, then its a bug !
now srsly fuck off never come back :)

what a dumbass. When's the last time you saw someone getting compensated for using bugs? They would just be banned.

And since the armor isn't adjusted in this version what's wrong with ousters trying to survive with RA on?

[Flyaaaa]

If it was first intended to not cancel the buffs when u change stones then it wasn't a bug, but after they compensated it by boosting def/pro of coats and you could still use it in some servers, then its a bug !
now srsly fuck off never come back :)

After they compensated. That's only in the Korean server. It wasn't done in FS or extreme so it isn't abusing bug. It' s just needed to survive in high lvl maps. Of course it would be a program if they already get the boost and still can use RA.

[kostarica]

why are people still arguing in this thread... you can't make it simpler than this:

1. Don't touch anything, don't fix WW or RA bug
2. Fix bugs and make according adjustments - increase def/pro to the same level as other versions.

[w00teR]

Or just go fuck yourself, cause this makes no sense if you will remove all bugs that give the game more fun than it will be like oldest version/shittyest gameplay/expencivest DE wow thats Extremeee!

[Carnelian]

I dont fucking know why you people say ousters cant survive without RA or bigger defense armors...Jesus chirst go for 240 dex rest int then? Everyone is going 300 int ~ rest "str" but why? So you can PK of course.

Go for dex and you can survive but probably suck at PK in lower levels. There is no need for bigger armor def for just ousters, even pure int vamps or int vamps without dex but str cant survive at night.

[Fressix]

I dont fucking know why you people say ousters cant survive without RA or bigger defense armors...Jesus chirst go for 240 dex rest int then? Everyone is going 300 int ~ rest "str" but why? So you can PK of course.

Go for dex and you can survive but probably suck at PK in lower levels. There is no need for bigger armor def for just ousters, even pure int vamps or int vamps without dex but str cant survive at night.

Again, you should have been swallowed.:)

In every version where the ability to keep buffs after switching stones has been disabled there has been major defense and protection raises, but in DeE there hasn't been any, so imo the ability should be allowed.

[WarriorAngel]

Again, you should have been swallowed.:)

In every version where the ability to keep buffs after switching stones has been disabled there has been major defense and protection raises, but in DeE there hasn't been any, so imo the ability should be allowed.

They haven't removed or added anything yet. However I find it obvious that they put a rule about it.

Why make a rule "you can't use that, because it's a flaw. If you use it you'll get the ban stick."

Instead of making such a rule, why not remove it directly? ( dont bring up bs about not having enough time. )

Also, lets say he put that rule as a warning for those ousters who fuck their build up. Then he should've just said that ''if you create a water ouster with reactive armor, you're fucked. Because after the update you wont be able to change stones.''


Conclusion: He can't check every ouster/vampire who uses it, and eventually it'll be a part of the game.

Off topic:

Have anyone received a ban for using wwb or stone bug?
..
I dont think so.


This thread is pointless.

[w00teR]

Off topic:

Have anyone received a ban for using wwb or stone bug?
..
I dont think so.


This thread is pointless.

So is DeE

[TaiM]

So is DeE

So is ur mum for making u.

[w00teR]

So is ur mum for making u.

FAIL

[TaiM]

FAIL

Yes, it was.

[Flyaaaa]

I dont fucking know why you people say ousters cant survive without RA or bigger defense armors...Jesus chirst go for 240 dex rest int then? Everyone is going 300 int ~ rest "str" but why? So you can PK of course.

Go for dex and you can survive but probably suck at PK in lower levels. There is no need for bigger armor def for just ousters, even pure int vamps or int vamps without dex but str cant survive at night.

Umm pure int vamps can regain hp very quickly with hp steal and AOE. That's for sure. Ousters AOE doesn't work like that. Also, I recall vamp can even revive themselves on the spot if they have hp steal and the blood wall (is that what's called) AOE is still active?

[Carnelian]

Umm pure int vamps can regain hp very quickly with hp steal and AOE. That's for sure. Ousters AOE doesn't work like that. Also, I recall vamp can even revive themselves on the spot if they have hp steal and the blood wall (is that what's called) AOE is still active?

Pure int cant get HP up that fast when 1 monster hits like 30-40% of its HP. No meph=die instantly. Vamps with 240 dex survive good tho. Ousters would survive aswell, thats for sure. WarriorAngel tested water ouster with 160~ dex and he survived pretty long.

PS. Vamps have hard time surviving with 160 dex too, 200 is what makes it a lot easier already.

[Flyaaaa]

Pure int cant get HP up that fast when 1 monster hits like 30-40% of its HP. No meph=die instantly. Vamps with 240 dex survive good tho. Ousters would survive aswell, thats for sure. WarriorAngel tested water ouster with 160~ dex and he survived pretty long.

PS. Vamps have hard time surviving with 160 dex too, 200 is what makes it a lot easier already.

true, but adding dex to int vamp makes them good at both pk and lvling. Dex/Int vamp (240 dex) with wide darkness is pwnage. Nobody uses pure int anymore. Adding dex to mage ouster makes them crap =.= Water ouster can survive more easily but fire can't ..

[PoeT]

true, but adding dex to int vamp makes them good at both pk and lvling. Dex/Int vamp (240 dex) with wide darkness is pwnage. Nobody uses pure int anymore. Adding dex to mage ouster makes them crap =.= Water ouster can survive more easily but fire can't ..

<3 240 dex and wide darkness deep deep <3