View Full Version : End of XP War
GenDeathRaiser
08-13-2008, 04:56 PM
So anyway some irregularities in some math I did brought something to my attention.
On DEE you get 100xp per hit, supposedly every hit at base XP is 3xp
100/3 is 33.333333333333
No one would ever set that as an XP rate and thats certainly not 35x if anything it would be 34 or 33, which is also irregular to set a rate at.
On FS you get 60xp per hit, at 3xp thats 20x, seems reasonable...
But what if...the base rate of xp in DE was 2xp per hit. What if FS wasn't 3x20 but it was 2x30.
If the base rate is 2xp per hit then in Dark Eden extreme we get 100xp per hit.... divided by 2....
OMFG THAT'S 50
OMFG DEE IS 50x WE ALL MUST BE ASSHOLES FOR SHITTING ALL OVER ROD FOR NO FUCKING REASON.
WarriorAngel
08-13-2008, 04:59 PM
So anyway some irregularities in some math I did brought something to my attention.
On DEE you get 100xp per hit, supposedly every hit at base XP is 3xp
100/3 is 33.333333333333
No one would ever set that as an XP rate and thats certainly not 35x if anything it would be 34 or 33, which is also irregular to set a rate at.
On FS you get 60xp per hit, at 3xp thats 20x, seems reasonable...
But what if...the base rate of xp in DE was 2xp per hit. What if FS wasn't 3x20 but it was 2x30.
If the base rate is 2xp per hit then in Dark Eden extreme we get 100xp per hit.... divided by 2....
OMFG THAT'S 50
OMFG DEE IS 50x WE ALL MUST BE ASSHOLES FOR SHITTING ALL OVER ROD FOR NO FUCKING REASON.
Oh yes that's 2.5x faster than fs, fuck yeah totally extreme!
Dark Chaos
08-13-2008, 05:00 PM
Yeah you were wrong, how about you just admit it instead of being a fucking faggot.
WarriorAngel
08-13-2008, 05:03 PM
Yeah you were wrong, how about you just admit it instead of being a fucking faggot.
So if we were to get 1xp per hit like old japan, we'd have 100x now.
That's nice, really nice.
You totally changed my mind about rod now.
lazarus
08-13-2008, 05:04 PM
Wait, what?
What is the point of this thread?
Dark Chaos
08-13-2008, 05:07 PM
Wait, what?
What is the point of this thread?
Everyone thought Rod was lying about the server being 50x the rate. Now GDR found out its been 50x the whole time, and people like warrior angel just cant find enough things to bitch about
FIFTY TIMES the normal xp rate isnt fast enough for you? Are you handicapped or something?
Straight Aces
08-13-2008, 05:09 PM
Wait, what?
What is the point of this thread?
Lots of people were bitching about having an exp rate at 30-35, which is false.
lazarus
08-13-2008, 05:13 PM
Everyone thought Rod was lying about the server being 50x the rate. Now GDR found out its been 50x the whole time, and people like warrior angel just cant find enough things to bitch about
FIFTY TIMES the normal xp rate isnt fast enough for you? Are you handicapped or something?
As I understand, FS is 20x xp rate and there you get 60xp per hit. So if you get 100xp per hit in DeE, the xp rate would be 100/60*20= 33,3. Then everyone were lied about the xp rate in FS is the point you're trying to make? Btw, I don't know whether you get 2xp or 3xp per hit in original DE. So could you possibly prove it somehow?
GenDeathRaiser
08-13-2008, 05:14 PM
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2090/xtremees5.jpg
Wut gives you guys this idea?
WarriorAngel
08-13-2008, 05:15 PM
As I understand, FS is 20x xp and there you get 60xp per hit. So if you get 100xp per hit in DeE, the xp rate would be 100/60*20= 33,3. Then everyone were lied about the xp rate in FS is the point you're trying to make? Btw, I don't know whether you get 2xp or 3xp per hit in original DE. So could you possibly prove it somehow?
They lower base rate so it fits their own xp.
Orginal they wanted 35x at 3x per hit, what do they do?
They lower base rate with -1
and it's 50x with 2xp base rate, but if you compare it to fs it's only 33x.
That's just lame.
GenDeathRaiser
08-13-2008, 05:17 PM
My proof is, if you hax the FS Server files, when you steal them, in the XP field is set:
xp=3000%
which is 30x, as opposed to 2000% which would be 20x, meaning FSs Server IS set for 30x, and Rods, is set for 5000% which is 50x.
the xp is not set to xp=333333333333333333333333333%
because that's stupid as fuck and seriously the fact that the number comes out to 33.3333 should be enough to shut you all up because thats such a ridiculous number
Dark Chaos
08-13-2008, 05:17 PM
Yes its a conspiracy! Rods lowering the base xp just so he can lie about the rate! Stop being such a fucking dolt.
GenDeathRaiser
08-13-2008, 05:18 PM
They lower base rate so it fits their own xp.
Orginal they wanted 35x at 3x per hit, what do they do?
They lower base rate with -1
and it's 50x with 2xp base rate, but if you compare it to fs it's only 33x.
That's just lame.
LOL OMFG, HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU CHANGE YOUR FUCKING LIE NOOB
Yes its a conspiracy! Rods lowering the base xp just so he can lie about the rate! Stop being such a fucking dolt.
Yet they complain he's not smart enough to fix any bugs or edit any code.
OMGZ CONTRADICTIONZZZZ
WarriorAngel
08-13-2008, 05:19 PM
My proof is, if you hax the FS Server files, when you steal them, in the XP field is set:
xp=3000%
which is 30x, as opposed to 2000% which would be 20x, meaning FSs Server IS set for 30x, and Rods, is set for 5000% which is 50x.
the xp is not set to xp=333333333333333333333333333%
because that's stupid as fuck and seriously the fact that the number comes out to 33.3333 should be enough to shut you all up because thats such a ridiculous number
So if fs is 30x, the server isn't even 2x.
And what fucking moron concluded the fs xp is 20x? That's what Ive thought all the time. ( Oh yes rod did )
Ninja
08-13-2008, 05:25 PM
http://forum.darkedenextreme.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=36&start=10
The current XP is 5000% = 50x.
DK2 Exp is 3000% = 30x.
We will ban all players that continue with this nonsense.
More importantly though, the experience you get per swing is 90. It currently is not 50x. It was set to 100, it is now 90.
WarriorAngel
08-13-2008, 05:27 PM
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5531/zaw2pi1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
GenDeathRaiser
08-13-2008, 05:52 PM
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5531/zaw2pi1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
That chat log is from like, when the servers beta ended and he just put the server up at 35x,
Before changing it 50x from everyone bitching, so that's why he said it was 35x
As for FS being 20x, if you ask anyone they say FS is 20x, it's only natural to assume that FS is 20x, but it's after further review of this math, that shows the deep truth. So with this information, I show that Rod was right about it being 50x this whole time, and that he was wrong about FS being 20x. He very well could have made an innocent mistake, but normally people say there's no use crying over spilled milk, but I'm almost done building my canoe so I don't have to drown from WA's tears.
So your dusty logs mean nothing.
WarriorAngel
08-13-2008, 05:57 PM
That chat log is from like, when the servers beta ended and he just put the server up at 35x,
Before changing it 50x from everyone bitching, so that's why he said it was 35x
As for FS being 20x, if you ask anyone they say FS is 20x, it's only natural to assume that FS is 20x, but it's after further review of this math, that shows the deep truth. So with this information, I show that Rod was right about it being 50x this whole time, and that he was wrong about FS being 20x. He very well could have made an innocent mistake, but normally people say there's no use crying over spilled milk, but I'm almost done building my canoe so I don't have to drown from WA's tears.
So your dusty logs mean nothing.
So the xp is 50x and fs is 30x.
if we say fs is 20x the xp in dee 33x.
That's disappointing, so saying the xp rate is 50x didn't really change the xp at all. They never raised the xp.
Or wait that's already obvious.
Though I dont understand this post : http://leetnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=16574
bobbetter
08-13-2008, 06:07 PM
http://forum.darkedenextreme.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=36&start=10
More importantly though, the experience you get per swing is 90. It currently is not 50x. It was set to 100, it is now 90.
I don't understand the equation to get the EXP rate then because FS's exp rate is exactly 2x the rate of DarkEden International. So how did they figure out DE's rate out because we always thought that DE Japan/Thailand was 1x, DE International was 10x and DE FengShen was 20x. If DE FS is now 30x, that means DE Int was 15x? But how is that when people have been thinking its been 10x and 20x since a year ago?
GenDeathRaiser
08-13-2008, 06:25 PM
I don't understand the equation to get the EXP rate then because FS's exp rate is exactly 2x the rate of DarkEden International. So how did they figure out DE's rate out because we always thought that DE Japan/Thailand was 1x, DE International was 10x and DE FengShen was 20x. If DE FS is now 30x, that means DE Int was 15x? But how is that when people have been thinking its been 10x and 20x since a year ago?
Does anyone actually know what 1x is? I mean as far as I know DE rates are kinda like quantum physics, we just know what we do from what we can apply to each and every DE.
Regardless of what's going on, Rod did not change the base XP, and the server IS/WAS set to 50x during most of the xp bitching, im being informed we're getting 90xp per hit now which would bring it down to 45x, or 30x if you see it the old way.
The main winner for me here is 33.333333333 is not what anyone would set for an XP rate. That's why I'm judging the base XP rate.
@ Warrior 75x is too much when there's 2x hours. That's why it went from 75x to 50x. And if you're concerned with why he said this is official it will never be reset again, he was indicating that it's no longer beta and chars won't be reset, not that the xp won't be changed.
WarriorAngel
08-13-2008, 06:34 PM
@ Warrior 75x is too much when there's 2x hours. That's why it went from 75x to 50x. And if you're concerned with why he said this is official it will never be reset again, he was indicating that it's no longer beta and chars won't be reset, not that the xp won't be changed.
In the end.
Fs = 20x
Int = 10x
Dee = 33.3x
Or
Fs = 30x
Int = 15x
dee = 50x
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This thread delivers.
bobbetter
08-13-2008, 06:41 PM
Does anyone actually know what 1x is? I mean as far as I know DE rates are kinda like quantum physics, we just know what we do from what we can apply to each and every DE.
Regardless of what's going on, Rod did not change the base XP, and the server IS/WAS set to 50x during most of the xp bitching, im being informed we're getting 90xp per hit now which would bring it down to 45x, or 30x if you see it the old way.
The main winner for me here is 33.333333333 is not what anyone would set for an XP rate. That's why I'm judging the base XP rate.
@ Warrior 75x is too much when there's 2x hours. That's why it went from 75x to 50x. And if you're concerned with why he said this is official it will never be reset again, he was indicating that it's no longer beta and chars won't be reset, not that the xp won't be changed.
Well I've heard DE Japan is x1 experience though I may be mistaken. If not and DE Korea has a lower experience rate than DE Japan then it is safe to say that the lower one is x1. Now all we have to do is kill a monster from there and see how much experience you get then go to DE International and kill the same monster and figure it out by dividing 4 to it because of the x4 exp event going on right now. Or kill the same monster on DE FS or DEE and there you go, thats the exp rate from whatever ratio you get out of those numbers.
I'd do it right now but I'm lazy/busy at the moment lol.
And offtopic, does anyone have a Starcraft CD Key that I can borrow because they don't play anymore or something? I need one.
exyst
08-13-2008, 08:26 PM
Well I've heard DE Japan is x1 experience though I may be mistaken. If not and DE Korea has a lower experience rate than DE Japan then it is safe to say that the lower one is x1. Now all we have to do is kill a monster from there and see how much experience you get then go to DE International and kill the same monster and figure it out by dividing 4 to it because of the x4 exp event going on right now. Or kill the same monster on DE FS or DEE and there you go, thats the exp rate from whatever ratio you get out of those numbers.
I'd do it right now but I'm lazy/busy at the moment lol.
And offtopic, does anyone have a Starcraft CD Key that I can borrow because they don't play anymore or something? I need one.
how the hell u think they made those calculations then ? o.0
Aramanon
08-14-2008, 12:01 AM
LOL OMFG, HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU CHANGE YOUR FUCKING LIE NOOB
Yet they complain he's not smart enough to fix any bugs or edit any code.
OMGZ CONTRADICTIONZZZZ
OMGZ DUBBLEPOSTZZZZZ
Raikoh
08-14-2008, 02:43 AM
Does anyone actually know what 1x is? I mean as far as I know DE rates are kinda like quantum physics, we just know what we do from what we can apply to each and every DE.
Regardless of what's going on, Rod did not change the base XP, and the server IS/WAS set to 50x during most of the xp bitching, im being informed we're getting 90xp per hit now which would bring it down to 45x, or 30x if you see it the old way.
The main winner for me here is 33.333333333 is not what anyone would set for an XP rate. That's why I'm judging the base XP rate.
@ Warrior 75x is too much when there's 2x hours. That's why it went from 75x to 50x. And if you're concerned with why he said this is official it will never be reset again, he was indicating that it's no longer beta and chars won't be reset, not that the xp won't be changed.
75x was good, i had more fun with 75x than this so called 50x.
I don't care what equation you do, this exp is no where near 50x IMO. 75x i could get 1 level perhour , 50x it takes me a good 3-4 hours..
Twisted
08-14-2008, 02:51 AM
The end of the "XP War" is when it's 75x again.
kristo14
08-14-2008, 02:54 AM
C mon PUT 75x BACK!
bobbetter
08-14-2008, 03:52 AM
how the hell u think they made those calculations then ? o.0
Dude I was only answering his question if anyone knew what 1x exp was. Don't jump to conclusions.
KrisDGreat
08-14-2008, 07:37 AM
C mon PUT 75x BACK!
Shut the fuck up?
75x is pointless...
vemdenta3
08-14-2008, 09:06 AM
75x is cool. we already have good items :P
w00teR
08-15-2008, 04:44 PM
It wont suck as long as it will be 50x as they say it is no hax and less racism :) Cause fucking chinese bitches are starting to piss meh off... :/
It wont suck as long as it will be 50x as they say it is no hax and less racism :) Cause fucking chinese bitches are starting to piss meh off... :/
All = 100% true
Raikoh
08-16-2008, 02:33 AM
BR's piss me off, chinese are ok. BR's just KS every fuckng second.