Wow/De

[Mando]

Well iam gonna start paying for one p2p game...x.x Either WoW or DE Thai, Just wondering who plays what and if u play wow wht server u play, whteva has the most players ill go to :)

[Aramanon]

Well iam gonna start paying for one p2p game...x.x Either WoW or DE Thai, Just wondering who plays what and if u play wow wht server u play, whteva has the most players ill go to :)
From this forum, DE Thai has the most people, but from the world in general, WoW does (obviously). IMO DE is a better game, but in the larger scheme of things, I'm probably the minority.

[InsanePenguins]

DE sucks, Thai is evil. Either save your P2P cash for a gun to shoot yourself with, or play WoW x.x.

[vess]

Play Thai.

[InsanePenguins]

Lynch Vess :o.

[Beowulf]

WoW... better yet, GW.

[Mando]

already played GW, would play again just to max my minion necro but dunno anyone tht plays except Muzz/Moreta but Iam diff server....

[InsanePenguins]

Meet up w/ them in the International districts O.o.

[Beowulf]

Changing districts is easy... It's a far better game than DE and WoW put together.

[Adam]

Well iam gonna start paying for one p2p game...x.x Either WoW or DE Thai, Just wondering who plays what and if u play wow wht server u play, whteva has the most players ill go to :)

I have a deal for you.. Talk with me on msn..

[Tranquility]

WoW is the most established game. This isn't my opinion, it has thousands of quests, 9 different classes, 8 different factions, PVP servers, PVE servers, RPing servers etc. Problems are resurrection systems and the large community. Corpse camping gets very frustrating and is a lot easier to do on WoW, and you often won't be able to know everyone on WoW.

However DE Thailand is much more addicting, problem being is that if you don't like repetative killing you will get bored fast.

IMO WoW is better in the long run, while DE Thailand is better in the short run. I do not believe that Thailand is worth $8.50-10.00 per month just to get access to the goodies, and even more to become a formidable player and train more efficiently.

[X ProwL]

WoW is the Best MMORPG right now, Nothing comes close to it.
GW isn't a MMORPG, Why do you people believe that 4 player severs with a 8 on 8 Party vs Party system is MMORPG? It's a ORPG.

Darkeden Thailand Is addictive, But now that all these losers are coming from International it's getting worse. I see the jerks coming over, The beggers and cheaters.

It's only time until everything goes wrong, When your community used to use the hack with 95% of the community cheating they're bound to set it loose again.

[DJ Stormray]

Well iam gonna start paying for one p2p game...x.x Either WoW or DE Thai, Just wondering who plays what and if u play wow wht server u play, whteva has the most players ill go to :)

WoW.

[Beowulf]

WoW is the Best MMORPG right now, Nothing comes close to it.
GW isn't a MMORPG, Why do you people believe that 4 player severs with a 8 on 8 Party vs Party system is MMORPG? It's a ORPG.

An MMORPG is a massive multiplayer online game, which means that people interact and play together in the game. With that definition said I would say that it is a MMORPG. It's also a CORPG as a geature in the game it self, but doesn't center itself on it.

PS: WoW isn't the best MMORPG/ORPG/CORPG when compared to GW.

[DJ Stormray]

GW sucks, waste of money. If you want to try it, just hook yourself up with it with Kazaa or Bit Torrent, and see for yourself why it's not worth the 40 bucks.

Darkeden Thailand Is addictive, But now that all these losers are coming from International it's getting worse. I see the jerks coming over, The beggers and cheaters.

I've never agreed with someone so much in my entire life.

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[Beowulf]

GW sucks, waste of money. If you want to try it, just hook yourself up with it with Kazaa or Bit Torrent, and see for yourself why it's not worth the 40 bucks.

If you think it can be brought with Kazaa or BitTorrent, then you have no idea what the hell GW is.

1. The client is already free at www.guildwars.com.

2. It's 50$.

3. You don't pay for the client, you pay for an account.

4. An account is impossible create unless bought you have serial.

5. Kazaa and BiTorrent are gay.

[X ProwL]

An MMORPG is a massive multiplayer online game, which means that people interact and play together in the game. With that definition said I would say that it is a MMORPG. It's also a CORPG as a geature in the game it self, but doesn't center itself on it.

PS: WoW isn't the best MMORPG/ORPG/CORPG when compared to GW.

Alright then, Your 4 Player MMORPG is just that.
In WoW there is no limit of the players you meet in One sever, Well there is a limit but it's somewhere near 2 thousand+?

So your MMORPG fails in size when compared to WoW.

Now, You compare Player Community:
WoW is MUCH bigger than GW, In terms of World and Community size. While WoW is bigger it also has alot more kids But alot more vets.

So WoW has a better community than GW.

In terms of Events? GW is much better for Events and Event items.
All WoW had for cool events was Halloween and the Staffs that turned party members into cool things like ninjas.

So I would Not classify GW as a MMORPG, Unless you would classify Diablo 2 as a MMORPG which would be stupid.

MMORPG=More than 4-12 players in a 'world' at once, Meaning you don't have to swap severs to meet these players.

Darkeden Thailand is a MMORPG while GW isn't.

[DJ Stormray]

If you think it can be brought with Kazaa or BitTorrent, then you have no idea what the hell GW is.

1. The client is already free at www.guildwars.com.

2. It's 50$.

3. You don't pay for the client, you pay for an account.

4. An account is impossible create unless bought you have serial.

5. Kazaa and BiTorrent are gay.

Like I said, not worth they money.

Now I say, not worth the hassle.

Alright then, Your 4 Player MMORPG is just that.
In WoW there is no limit of the players you meet in One sever, Well there is a limit but it's somewhere near 2 thousand+?

So your MMORPG fails in size when compared to WoW.

Now, You compare Player Community:
WoW is MUCH bigger than GW, In terms of World and Community size. While WoW is bigger it also has alot more kids But alot more vets.

So WoW has a better community than GW.

In terms of Events? GW is much better for Events and Event items.
All WoW had for cool events was Halloween and the Staffs that turned party members into cool things like ninjas.

So I would Not classify GW as a MMORPG, Unless you would classify Diablo 2 as a MMORPG which would be stupid.

MMORPG=More than 4-12 players in a 'world' at once, Meaning you don't have to swap severs to meet these players.

Darkeden Thailand is a MMORPG while GW isn't.

M-M-M-MONSTER KILL KILL KILL

Word, mother effin word.

[Beowulf]

Alright then, Your 4 Player MMORPG is just that.

What are you talking about? The maximum is 8... in a party.

WoW is MUCH bigger than GW, In terms of World and Community size. While WoW is bigger it also has alot more kids But alot more vets.

The game has been out longer then GW. You're right that it has more people. However, GW reached it's first million faster then WoW did.

MMORPG=More than 4-12 players in a 'world' at once, Meaning you don't have to swap severs to meet these players.

Well, in terms of definition it is a MMORPG. In terms of gameplay it's 1/2 CORPG.

Massive multiplayer = It has more than 1 million, so that's massive + multiplayer because half the game is about PvP.

Online = No brainer.

Role Playing Game = Playing with people that can control elements, control the dead, and heal.

I'd say it's a at least 1/2 MMORPG.


Like I said, not worth they money.

Why? Explain.

[X ProwL]

What are you talking about? The maximum is 8... in a party.



The game has been out longer then GW. You're right that it has more people. However, GW reached it's first million faster then WoW did.



Well, in terms of definition it is a MMORPG. In terms of gameplay it's 1/2 CORPG.

Massive multiplayer = It has more than 1 million, so that's massive + multiplayer because half the game is about PvP.

Online = No brainer.

Role Playing Game = Playing with people that can control elements, control the dead, and heal.

I'd say it's a at least 1/2 MMORPG.




Why? Explain.

It's nothing Close to a MMORPG.
MMORPG= FFXI, L2, WoW, AC, UO, DE, CO, MO.
ORPG=Diablo(4), Diablo 2(6), GW(8), PSO(4). Any game that offers Online/Offline play with Restricted numbers.

Don't get techincal because if you want to EVERY game is a RPG as you play the ROLE of a character, RPG, MMORPG and ORPG are terms used to classify games.

GW is a Online/Offline Role Playing Game, It's nothing more than Phantasy Star or Diablo 2.

Stop arguing that it's a MMORPG.
Diablo 2 had Millions and Millions of players playing it but that didn't mean it was a MMORPG, It just meant alot of people liked playing it.

If you want to be proud of your game then be, But don't come on here and state false information about it. It's a Good ORPG but it's No MMORPG and therefor can't be compared to WoW or any MMORPG.

[Beowulf]

GW does not restrict anything but party size.

It does NOT provide any offline play. You're the one stating false information.

Don't get techincal because if you want to EVERY game is a RPG as you play the ROLE of a character, RPG, MMORPG and ORPG are terms used to classify games.

What do you mean "EVERY game"? Let me post it again incause you didn't see it:

Massive multiplayer = It has more than 1 million, so that's massive + multiplayer because half the game is about PvP.

Online = No brainer.

Role Playing Game = Playing with people that can control elements, control the dead, and heal.

If you insist so much that it isn't, let's say it isn't a MMORPG. It is still better than WoW by a long shot.

[X ProwL]

Massive multiplayer = It has more than 1 million, so that's massive + multiplayer because half the game is about PvP.

Online = No brainer.

Role Playing Game = Playing with people that can control elements, control the dead, and heal.

Alright then, Role Playing game.
Sonic: You take the ROLE of sonic.
Castlevania: You can control the elements, Control the dead and Heal.
Mario: You take the ROLE of Mario.
Diablo: You can control the elements, Control the dead and heal.
Yada yada yada.

GW is EXACTLY the same as Diablo in sense of Game style, The game is heavily populated(More than 1million) You can control elements dead yada yada yada heal. It's ONLINE and alot of it is PVP, So i guess that means it's a MMORPG right?

I was wrong about the offline play.

So you can't compare two different types of games mind you.
So you believe GW is better than WoW.
I believe WoW is better because it's an actual MMORPG.
I also believe that Supermario RPG is better than both of them.

3 Different types of games.

So, If you believe GW is a MMORPG then you believe Diablo 2 is a MMORPG because they are the same in almost the same aspects.

[Aramanon]

Here you go:
Guild Wars is not an MMORPG.
The traditional model for the MMORPG that was laid down by Ultima Online and EverQuest is built around subscription fees, first and foremost. They want you to keep playing month after month, and to do that they might stretch out 60 or 70 hours of unique playtime to, say, over 1000 hours. To get to the really cool high level content in these games you have to invest hundreds of hours of your life. And those hours are usually spent doing a certain type of quest - what we like to call a Fed-Ex quest, taking something to somewhere else. Now, those Fed-Ex quests aren't there because the designers are dumb or lazy, but because in huge multi-user worlds it's very difficult to have quests that change the world.

A good comparison I like to make is the original series of Star Trek. Every individual episode was designed as a closed narrative with the world ending up in the same state as it began. That was so that the series could be played back in any order without confusing the viewer. Those are the conditions a traditional MMORPG labours under because, say, if you blow up that bridge the people behind you can't ever cross it.

Guild Wars is designed so that it breaks free of those constraints. The two fundamental design goals of Guild Wars were to create an MMO that valued skill above time investment and that we wanted to make an online RPG that had compelling quest content that hasn't been possible in the traditional MMORPG structure. So the reason I say so cleanly that Guild Wars is not an MMO is because people immediately connect that term with the traditional MMORPG structure that has been laid down for so many years. Guild Wars does not adhere to that structure.

[X ProwL]

Thankgod, Someone posted something useful.

[Adam]

I've never played WoW but it looks like one of those games I'd be like...wow this is fun. Play it for like 2 weeks and be like... Uuuuhh im bored

[InsanePenguins]

I'm like that with every game x.x. I just instantly didn't like DE though.

[Beowulf]

Enough with Diablo 2, I've never seen nor played Diablo 2.

GW is the new generation ORPG.

WoW is just like any other old MMORPG just with better... everything.

Change is good, change is for the better, change is effective, change is GW.

Fine, you're right it's not n MMORPG but as I stated before, it's better than WoW.

[Adam]

I'm like that with every game x.x. I just instantly didn't like DE though.

Im a recovering DE-addict. At first when I played.... God I would never go out. No social life for like 2 months... But, now I play but actually have a life lol

I have never played a game better than DE to this day.

[Aramanon]

Enough with Diablo 2, I've never seen nor played Diablo 2.

GW is the new generation ORPG.

WoW is just like any other old MMORPG just with better... everything.

Change is good, change is for the better, change is effective, change is GW.
I dunno about that, being entirely instanced really detracted from the whole GW experience for me, and having no single player 1v1 system certainly annoyed me. In an online game I'm the kind of person who only really likes to play alone, levelling, etc; and GW is incredibly limited for that style of gameplay.

[Beowulf]

GW requires skill and strategy to kill your opponent, in WoW you need to have more people or 2 levels above your opponent to win. Which is better?

[DJ Stormray]

GW requires skill and strategy to kill your opponent, in WoW you need to have more people or 2 levels above your opponent to win. Which is better?

A level 20 with Ronok the Axe can kill a level 50 with a Wooden Sword. x.x

Yeah so what if the weapons are from Fable and Mir... close enough, it's true!

[Aramanon]

GW requires skill and strategy to kill your opponent, in WoW you need to have more people or 2 levels above your opponent to win. Which is better?
DE, where it's a combination of skill, items, level, character class and preparation for battle.

[Beowulf]

A level 20 with Ronok the Axe can kill a level 50 with a Wooden Sword. x.x

And how often does that happen? x.x

[X ProwL]

Your such a hypocrite, You slam WoW for being the New generation of MMORPG but GW is basically Diablo 2 updated.

GW is nothing really new, It just has graphics and updated gameplay over Diablo 2.

WoW has more PvP value than you suggest, With an ass load of skills you need to use them effectively to build your class properly for PvP.

But like i said before you can't compare games from different types.

WoW = MMORPG
GW = ORPG
Lineage, FFXI, Matrix Online etc. etc. can compare to WoW.
Phantasy Star and Diablo can compare to GW.

[DJ Stormray]

I personally think WoW is better because you have total control... like an FPS, just in 3rd person. Unlike GW, which is like DE; click and go.

[sander]

I have never played a game better than DE to this day.
Amen brother.

GW it's boring. I ascended my character, i got lv20 (max) and raly i dont want to play it enymore.
WOW cant tell i just dont like wacraft rts and mmo.

[Beowulf]

Your such a hypocrite, You slam WoW for being the New generation of MMORPG but GW is basically Diablo 2 updated.

Hypocrite: a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he or she does not hold in order to conceal his or her real feelings or motives.

I'm not slamming anything, I'm just saying the truth. Could you take a break from talking about Diablo 2? That's all I'm seeing now.

WoW has more PvP value than you suggest, With an ass load of skills you need to use them effectively to build your class properly for PvP.

GW PvP is better than WoW PvP because it requires intelligence and teakmwork, WoW requires a couple of levels or a bigger guild/party. Until now you state no constructive reason to prove that WoW is better.

It all come to a matter of tastes in gameplay, but GW PvP IS superiour.

Post why you think WoW is better instead of rambling on about Diablo 2 and MMORPG/ORPG.

[DJ Stormray]

Wulf, WoW requires just as much strategy as anything else. Didn't you see the Leeroy Jenkins video? They were planning there, and there were some pretty good ideas until king shit barged in and ruined everything.

[Beowulf]

That was a funny video, besides they were playing PvE in a quest, I'm talking about PvP in GW.

[DJ Stormray]

PvP sucks in any game unless your a cheapshot mage/archer or a tank.

[Mando]

PvP sucks in any game unless your a cheapshot mage/archer or a tank.
isn't mage/archer/tank every type of class in most games o,O

[DJ Stormray]

isn't mage/archer/tank every type of class in most games o,O

Yes, most, but some can just be warriors and stuff.

[Aramanon]

isn't mage/archer/tank every type of class in most games o,O
And healer.
Yes, must, but some can just be warriors and stuff.
That's what a tank is, lol.

[DJ Stormray]

That's what a tank is, lol.

If it's a game with just warriors, there is no reason to call it a Tank. :p

[Tranquility]

I am failing to see combinations of skills in DE. You are pretty much forced to use specific skills.

[DJ Stormray]

I am failing to see combinations of skills in DE. You are pretty much forced to use specific skills.

Yup.

[Trix]

Thread got to long to play but if you are going to P2P, DE is fun and cheap but WOW is definately a better all round game. You actually have to think a little to play it and there are so many lands it would take a really long time to discover them all. Guild Wars is fun, it has the best graphics, but the realms are limited and like DE the monsters are pretty common throughout the game.