We need a private server. [Archive]

DJ Stormray

03-23-2006, 06:14 PM

It's time, we need to start digging and find some treasure.

We need someone to set up a private DarkEden server, regardless of the version. It needs to be for LeetNetwork members only. You wanna play, you join LeetNetwork and have the administrator of the server create you the account.

Just think, no unpleasant hackers, no bad news russians (Maybe 1 or two, have no idea how many are here.), we will easily know what problems that need to be fixed via connections, and it can be our own pure English DarkEden.

For you guys that like DE, it's time to take this into our own hands. We need to find some server files.

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 06:19 PM

good luck, i'll passively support you 100% x.x

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 06:20 PM

If its like 20000x exp I'll play x.x. Leveling FTL.

Raikoh

03-23-2006, 06:37 PM

yeah ask falenangel he said he knows about this stuff but heneeds some server files which he doesnt own

GenDeathRaiser

03-23-2006, 06:46 PM

Ftl. Reason I like DE is large amounts of players. Ill pass on playing with 13 people.

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 06:57 PM

well, drop the 'LN only' idea and see how many people wanna play a US based DE...you could throw in your own items and shit x.x who knows what all we'd end up with. too bad it'll never happen.

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 06:59 PM

If it happens I demand to be max level. Leveling FTL once again x.x.

Fables

03-23-2006, 07:10 PM

Eh, while the idea is a great one and all, I highly doubt you'd ever get the source codes.

If it ever happens though, I'm game. Get the Korean source codes though. <3

Raikoh

03-23-2006, 07:15 PM

idea same lvling rate as int and drop rate etc... but with korean version...cant beat int

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 07:31 PM

Sure x.x... if anyone is pr0 enough to own up some sources for us.

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 07:33 PM

im thinkin...CN drop rates with 35x xp all the time >.> could get lvl100 slayer in like 2 days or somethin x.x maybe even put max lvl/stats higher like 350lvl - 700 stats c.c

Durog

03-23-2006, 07:38 PM

it won't work. :)

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 07:41 PM

Never hurt to try. I'd rip off all their shit myself if I knew how.

Adam

03-23-2006, 07:41 PM

word.

Raikoh

03-23-2006, 07:41 PM

nah....... dont think so... id say 5x all time

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 07:42 PM

I'd settle for no less than 15 x.x.

Raikoh

03-23-2006, 07:43 PM

5x on china would be like 1 lvl every 20mins or so thats fast as fook

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 07:44 PM

Not really. If i don't get a level every kill up to level 20 or so, then every other monster up to like 50, 5 kills up to 90ish, 10kills to 100... I won't be happy x.x.

DJ Stormray

03-23-2006, 07:45 PM

It would be 10x if anything.

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 07:47 PM

15 bitch. Don't make me beat your ass x.x.

DJ Stormray

03-23-2006, 07:48 PM

15 bitch. Don't make me beat your ass x.x.

Bring it on Sir Jiggles A Lot.

Raikoh

03-23-2006, 07:48 PM

maybe we should contact softon? there plans on making a darkeden america and europe could just come true...

DJ Stormray

03-23-2006, 07:49 PM

maybe we should contact softon? there plans on making a darkeden america and europe could just come true...

Their plans already went up in smoke. AKA INT.

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 07:49 PM

Undoubtably they'll want money and a signed contract that takes up 95% of our profits to run their game.

And I would maul you Storm x.x...

Raikoh

03-23-2006, 07:51 PM

weeee still 5% profit is good we all donate money everymonth to gdr and he will host it :D

DJ Stormray

03-23-2006, 07:52 PM

Undoubtably they'll want money and a signed contract that takes up 95% of our profits to run their game.

And I would maul you Storm x.x...

If it's a private server, and we don't ask for money, theres nothing they can do. Especially being in a foreign country. We just need someone with an extra computer they can leave on all the time. I'd do it, but the next best machine I have is a 95 Packard Bell.

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 07:52 PM

A good commercial server brings in more than 20 people... you'd need a server with massive amounts of harddrive space, tape backups, a connection faster than cable.... it'd be expensive as hell.

DJ Stormray

03-23-2006, 07:54 PM

A good commercial server brings in more than 20 people... you'd need a server with massive amounts of harddrive space, tape backups, a connection faster than cable.... it'd be expensive as hell.

Who says we need that? A simple computer with enough bandwidth to hold 250 players is more than enough for our community.

Just imagine, "DarkEden Leet", or " DE LN".

Hahah, that would rock my soul.

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 07:55 PM

We have 250 people on here? x.x. We'd still need a decent computer with a decent connection thats just... idle... at all times... running the server.

DJ Stormray

03-23-2006, 07:56 PM

We have 250 people on here? x.x. We'd still need a decent computer with a decent connection thats just... idle... at all times... running the server.

Exactly what I said about the computer. And no, we don't have 250 people but like all other games, theres outsiders.

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 07:58 PM

Not if you have to go through someone to get access to the server. A truely PRIVATE server. Fuck the outsiders and their fucking up of our game.

FalenAngel

03-23-2006, 08:10 PM

A good commercial server brings in more than 20 people... you'd need a server with massive amounts of harddrive space, tape backups, a connection faster than cable.... it'd be expensive as hell.

not true...this is darkeden not finalfantasy 11....

ive run many servers of many games like this and more graphically intensive too.. hardrive space? heck..10 gigs would do it. bandwidth?..hmm a fast broadband cable would cope sufficantly and back ups? lol..doesnt that restore thingy on windows do that good enough?

you could easily host darkeden on a modestly decent second pc (which i have ;) ) but gaining server files is something not so easy for this game..i heard they were leaks to the chinese, and once before the international server files (ver 3.00) were even hosted on an underground site...but alass...theyyve seemingly disapeared off the face of this earth.

id be more than willing to hack/crack or reverse engineer (all very posible but you need a team because its time consuming) but the only groups of people i found trying this (and there is only a few) are all too noob...they all are waiting for some1 else to lead the way and atho i know enough i dont know everything. but yea server files for any version with exp rates at 10x would pwn...(its more about the items than leveling i always thought) so quick-ish leveling is cool.

Raikoh

03-23-2006, 08:17 PM

true that...alex make us darkeden LN !!! LOL

FalenAngel

03-23-2006, 08:24 PM

true that...alex make us darkeden LN !!! LOL

would love to host DarkEden...so would my real life friend.. but as i said, its a big job and requires a team and they need to at least half know what their doing.

sorry :P

Raikoh

03-23-2006, 08:25 PM

find a team then jom

Fables

03-23-2006, 08:27 PM

Yeah...first you'd need the source code before you could even think about getting a team. ;)

Raikoh

03-23-2006, 08:31 PM

get the source code then noobs

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 08:31 PM

I'm intelligent... just don't ask me to code x.x.

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 08:32 PM

well now that we know it kinda is but isnt really possible, you guys gotta do it...for the team! yey x.x

SoulDivide

03-23-2006, 08:34 PM

true that...alex make us darkeden LN !!! LOL
Well... i dont think he would call it LN. Simply because off his attitude towards LN.
And geting the files for it.. I would give you a percentage but there is too many 0's befor the point(.).

Also if there was any chance in makeing the server. For someone like dick to run the server... it would be like puting Adolf Hitler back in charge. Fuck that.

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 08:34 PM

I miss HB Int T.T. TO WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! x.x.

Raikoh

03-23-2006, 08:38 PM

alex is cool nothing wrong with alex

SoulDivide

03-23-2006, 08:43 PM

alex is cool nothing wrong with alex

Yeh mabey to you cause your on that good side. But his attitude in a whole is bad, and he's not fit to run a fair server.

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 08:48 PM

Yeh mabey to you cause your on that good side. But his attitude in a whole is bad, and he's not fit to run a fair server.

just cause you're retarded and nobody likes you dont mean auron couldnt run a fair server >.>....should it ever happen, AND he be the one to host the server, all would be well x.x

Defiance

03-23-2006, 08:48 PM

Falen is trustworthy, he hasn't screwed us over, and I don't believe he will.

If anyone can do it, I trust him above all others. though, it would take alot of rule/law breaking to get the sourcecode for the game itself, its easy enough to change some words around inside the game, but getting the sourcecode is a different matter entirely.

GL and HF Falen, if anyone can do it, I believe it is you.

SoulDivide

03-23-2006, 09:12 PM

just cause you're retarded and nobody likes you dont mean auron couldnt run a fair server >.>....should it ever happen, AND he be the one to host the server, all would be well x.x

You call me retarded becuase i call you it, but when i say it, its because you actualy are, and not because im trying to be offenceive unlike you... How would people not likeling me affect whether or not he can run a fair server... Retard hypatheticly he can run a fair server, anyone can, but if he will or not is a difrent question and baced on fallenangle from thai, and his posts from LN it shows me he is an egotistical person, and has a lack off respect. But ah well the boat is geting pushed out too far, it wont happen and he wont own a darkeden server. Dont bother planing when the most important and hardist thing for the server isnt there.

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 09:14 PM

What the fuck is with everyone typing a thesis to reply? A simple fuck you works x.x.

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 09:14 PM

i see you're quoting me....but i'll wait for an english translation before i can give a real response x.x

Faded

03-23-2006, 09:41 PM

I agree with SoulDivide,

Falen is unfit to lead/run a server or anything for that matter. A person like Falen who goes for the sheer pleasure of annoying/degrading people. Would also make bias decisions aka: tyrant.

I don't care how good a person does a job, if there attitude sucks. They are nothing.

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 09:43 PM

having agreed with souldivide, the world shall turn against you. the elite 4 will be meeting with GDR to discuss your dismissal c.c

Faded

03-23-2006, 09:48 PM

having agreed with souldivide, the world shall turn against you. the elite 4 will be meeting with GDR to discuss your dismissal c.c

Yeah but then having picked the popular choice but the logicial one reinstates me ^_^

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 09:49 PM

A kick in the balls will dethrone you c.c.

FalenAngel

03-23-2006, 09:50 PM

Yeah...first you'd need the source code before you could even think about getting a team. ;)

you do realise that DE isnt quite the same as most mmorpgs, most of the source is in the client itself, its posible to even reverse engineer the server files using the client altho like ive mentioned its a too bigger job for one to do.

as for the support ^^ im amazed people actually like me here lmao. but it is apreciated, i cant promise anything tho when it comes to this subject..

ive attempted such a thing before and i can see its possible but then so are so many things that take a team to make, if i tried to do it solo world take me months and months and maybe a year lol and thats not because im slow...

as for my little hater here, id be fair to run a server, done it before on other games. i wouldnt play DE if i had a server id just watch over it and maintain it (kinda going off all internet stuff right now anyways for some reason) but yea, this is the best game on the net in my opinion, and ive played near all of them :-P

;)

DJ Stormray

03-23-2006, 09:52 PM

I don't know what all of the bitching about source code is for... the majority of it is in the Clients. (What we use to play on.)

You're all making it seem really difficult, when it really isn't.

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 09:54 PM

Its complicated when the only person that can code here *that I know of* is GDR... the original one x.x.

DJ Stormray

03-23-2006, 09:55 PM

Its complicated when the only person that can code here *that I know of* is GDR... the original one x.x.

There is no actual CODING involved. We just need to find the fucking Mud3 server version of DE SOMEWHERE, have the person get Microsoft SQL and boom, we've got a fucking server.

It's out there, and we need to find it.

Fables

03-23-2006, 09:55 PM

I don't know what all of the bitching about source code is for... the majority of it is in the Clients. (What we use to play on.)

You're all making it seem really difficult, when it really isn't.

Then do it. ;)

Everything can be found by Google! Google it!

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 09:56 PM

Then do it. ;)

do it x.x

DJ Stormray

03-23-2006, 09:56 PM

Then do it. ;)

Get me the Mud3 server files and I will?

Fables

03-23-2006, 09:56 PM

Get me the Mud3 server files and I will?

I dun wanna. :(

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 09:57 PM

Any idea where they might be located? >.>.

FalenAngel

03-23-2006, 10:01 PM

the best way (well most realistic)is not to make a server, but to look into server emulations, this way we can just use the client to find out what the server needs to be able to do and how it places monsters on maps (the main thing the server seems to do)

as for just decoding the exe if it was so simple people wouldve done it already, its in asm (assembly) lol...good luck finding some1 who knows this fluently this is machine code (ie. not intented for programmers to really use but for the machine to understand)

see after a program is coded, it is compiled (this means it is basically translated/saved into computer language so the computer can understand it) its more than likely this game was made in something like c++ to start with then compiled. erm yea enough of the programming lesson? -.-

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 10:03 PM

Not really... teach me more x.x.

DJ Stormray

03-23-2006, 10:03 PM

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 10:05 PM

Hmm... now where have I heard of C++ before.

its my name to the power of '+' x2

FalenAngel

03-23-2006, 10:08 PM

Hmm... now where have I heard of C++ before.

lmao...its like maybe the most universal (windows based) languages of all?, its the object oreintated language that evolved from "c" (c being the code that made everything lol) it uses native code so it can make programs that work on any platform (meaning unlike java it doesnt need an enviroment to run in, cutting a lot of shit out ie making it really fast) they use c++ to make near all top end games and shit these days.

they say c++ is really solid to learn, yet i can fall asleep in most the classes (or not turn up at all) then it comes to a test i breeze it lol... (cant say the same for most my classmates so maybe im just gifted ^^) but w/e yea back on subject, im pretty sure DE is built in c++ as ive had an c++ error from international before now.

(this making sense to any1 but me? lmaooo)

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 10:13 PM

lmao...its like maybe the most universal (windows based) languages of all?, its the object oreintated language that evolved from "c" (c being the code that made everything lol) it uses native code so it can make programs that work on any platform (meaning unlike java it doesnt need an enviroment to run in, cutting a lot of shit out ie making it really fast) they use c++ to make near all top end games and shit these days.

they say c++ is really solid to learn, yet i can fall asleep in most the classes (or not turn up at all) then it comes to a test i breeze it lol... (cant say the same for most my classmates so maybe im just gifted ^^) but w/e yea back on subject, im pretty sure DE is built in c++ as ive had an c++ error from international before now.

(this making sense to any1 but me? lmaooo)

so you're saying there's a chance...>.>

FalenAngel

03-23-2006, 10:17 PM

ofcourse lol..but its not as easy as stormray announces.. lol

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 10:21 PM

poke him in the asshole with a cattle prod or w/e and do it then c.c

FalenAngel

03-23-2006, 10:23 PM

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 10:24 PM

x.x. Wth does XD supposedly mean anyway?....

FalenAngel

03-23-2006, 10:28 PM

x.x. Wth does XD supposedly mean anyway?....

its just another smiley

Fruitloops

03-23-2006, 10:29 PM

Windows XD x.x..

InsanePenguins

03-23-2006, 10:30 PM

Windows XD would burn in hell. I would destroy Microsoft.

FalenAngel

03-23-2006, 10:30 PM

Windows XD x.x..

yea....what he said :rolleyes:

Mysterial

03-24-2006, 04:25 AM

FalenAngel

03-24-2006, 05:16 AM

maybe using invitations like gmail to create accs would allow the server to have more ppl. as for hackers, we'll have to judge therm ourselves b4 we invite them..

and if u open it with the C++ or asm it'll be like wtf? shit load ofmany pages. how r u going to find the strings/values/codes u want in it? sure will take a lot of time even if u do manage to find it. with all that ax, bx, add, inc it'll prolly be like 1000 pages on its own for the client starup and login window in-game.

im not sure you follow what i said (which wasnt much actualy detail about how id go about forming the server files)...

server files can consist of just a matter of megabytes. i expect the DE server files definatly arent more than 3 megs (a graphically intense game would be around 3 megs or less) so maybe 1 meg for DE?... as for searching, its not like just looking randoming into the code guessing what to do, you look at a certain section you need to create code for then you test it and see what packets are returned. all the server does, is satisfy requests from the client and so there is not much information needs to be stored on the server (excluding the database, which isnt much more than a text doc at its most basic form anyways)