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Shootaz
09-09-2005, 06:41 PM
These forums have gone into anarchy and no one gives a shit about anyhting here. ive stuck with these fourms longer than most people here, after all this bitching just cut the rope. Im gone. everyone have fun wasteing your life away bitching at each other.

Beowulf
09-09-2005, 06:42 PM
I'm sure I will. Have fun.

Zim
09-09-2005, 06:43 PM
Isn't it mighty convenient that as soon as I resigned, this place went into chaos? Yeah, I was the glue holding this place together mod wise. GDR doesn't give a shit, InsaneHunter has crappy judgement, and the other mods don't show up.

I'll be following you in your leave pretty soon. Cya.

Shootaz
09-09-2005, 06:45 PM
The only thing you did for these forums was encourage me to leave because of your post closing and bitching towards everyone.

Faded
09-09-2005, 06:45 PM
yo someone startup a new forum where a admin actually gives a shit

Beowulf
09-09-2005, 06:52 PM
I'd be glad to oblige.

Shootaz
09-09-2005, 06:53 PM
Beo thats the shit im talking about. EVERYONE needs to stop taking personal shots at people.

Kaz
09-09-2005, 06:53 PM
yo someone startup a new forum where a admin actually gives a shit

We're in the process. We're all leaving actually. Fixing it all up as I post.

If anyone is skilled with shit, we can all make a community site as well, but that's kinda depending if anyone can do anything besides Tom and I.

Zim
09-09-2005, 06:58 PM
The only thing you did for these forums was encourage me to leave because of your post closing and bitching towards everyone.

Yeah, you're blind to the facts of the matter, so your words mean nothing to me.

And just ignore Beowolf, he can't help it.

Beowulf
09-09-2005, 07:03 PM
Beo thats the shit im talking about. EVERYONE needs to stop taking personal shots at people.

I can't it's in my blood, I only take personal shots when somebody startes a flame war with me. Vote for me and Kaz and we'll make a forum that has threads that never close unless it breaks the rules (spam or not). I'll do you all a favor and ask him for Zim's I.P. number so he can be banned from the new forum (YAY!!). In our new forum, the admins wont make the forum, The members will....Vote for Beowolf and Kaz. I'm good with advertisement.

Zim
09-09-2005, 07:05 PM
I can't it's in my blood, I only take personal shots when somebody startes a flame war with me. Vote for me and Kaz and we'll make a forum that has threads that never close unless it breaks the rules (spam or not). I'll do you all a favor and ask him for Zim's I.P. number so he can be banned from the new forum (YAY!!). In our new forum, the admins wont make the forum, The members will....Vote for Beowolf and Kaz. I'm good with advertisement.


A. Any fool can get through an IP ban

B. Like I would even consider joining a forum run by you and kaz. Oh jesus, now I feel sick.

And it's not in your blood, it's in your brain. Get help.

Beowulf
09-09-2005, 07:07 PM
Haha now you copy my sig. Anyway please redirect your attention from the fag Zim and focus.

Zim
09-09-2005, 07:09 PM
Haha now you copy my sig. Anyway please redirect your attention from the fag Zim and focus.

You know, you should really learn the value of a comma.

Beowulf
09-09-2005, 07:10 PM
Wow, what a comeback! I feel scared in my heart. He said I don't know the value of a comma...OH THE AGONY.

Zim
09-09-2005, 07:12 PM
Wow, what a comeback! I feel scared in my heard. He said I don't know the value of a comma...OH THE AGONY.

Hmm, now lets assess your insults:

Gay
Fag
Ass
Dickwad

What a wide and varied vocabulary you have there old Beowolfy! Care to share any more half-witted insults?

Beowulf
09-09-2005, 07:14 PM
Now you list my insults! Please stop before I laugh my ass off to death. Oh my rib.

Kaz
09-09-2005, 07:16 PM
Come on. There is no need for this in this thread. Please, for once, don't do this.

Beowulf, I know you're a better person than Zim, so prove it by stopping this.

Zim
09-09-2005, 07:17 PM
Great retort.

This is exactly what Shootaz was talking about anyway. I'm not actually going to post in this thread anymore, since I've been through this before with you, and to be honest, I have more productive things I could do other than argue with some hothead pumped up on dorkosterone.

Beowulf
09-09-2005, 07:19 PM
Great retort.

This is exactly what Shootaz was talking about anyway. I'm not actually going to post in this thread anymore, since I've been through this before with you, and to be honest, I have more productive things I could do other than argue with some hothead pumped up on dorkosterone.

Is it dildo time already? Zim, have fun making fun of Kaz and calling him names and shit, he's a better person than you can ever imagine. If he's 1% of what you say he is, compared to you he'd look like jesus.

Beowulf
09-09-2005, 07:21 PM
I'll stop this, only 'cause Kaz asked me to.

Straight Aces
09-09-2005, 07:53 PM
no, there isn't anything wrong with the forums, gdr is a great admin, whats wrong with the forum is the people, most of us hate each other so much that the topics will be nice and quiet at the beginning, then someone will just flame someone else for a mistake, then a flame war will start, why don't all of us just shut up and be nice to each other!

Beowulf
09-09-2005, 07:55 PM
You ask too much.

Straight Aces
09-09-2005, 08:18 PM
actually im not, its just that you're stubborn like a few others who don't like to be made into a good little boy/girl (and dont make a comeback on the "good little boy/girl" part please)

Serpent
09-09-2005, 08:25 PM
i agree with beowolf and kaz that we need to make a new forum but on the other hand whoever said that we hate each other is kinda right and kinda wrong... its not that we hate each other its the fact we know each other too well. thats the problem i means we are the only ppl who constantly post on this forum as opposed to the game made forums where its more game oriented talk as opposed to the whole nine yards(all topics).

GenDeathRaiser
09-09-2005, 08:30 PM
I love how you say I do nothing, because I don't continuously close posts and fire shit off at people? You yell at Zim for it, and complain at me for not doing it, you're very good at determining what you want, over the last week and a half I've put up 20+ arcade games, a shop, and cash mod, I'm sorry that I'm the only person that has access to coding the forums, you honestly believe I should trust other people to help me, look at you all, basically backstabbing me, imagine if you were all admins, you'd just start deleting shit. Your opinion is worthless because you back it up with nothing, I've done nothing lately, and I don't give a shit? I have a job, I pay for this site, if I didn't give a shit I wouldnt send out the check. I wouldn't have bought 160$ forum software if I didn't give a shit, and personally I wouldn't be here if I didn't give a shit. Pity you're all such fools.

Serpent
09-09-2005, 08:39 PM
When ppl like Beowolf and Shootaz keep flaming each other(thats basically from what i've read above) thats when the hatred is up but otherwise its basically mellow for the most part.


GDR-
i appreciate you spending your hard earned cash on this forum. no i'm leaving but maybe some ppl arent meant to be mods or even to be part of this forum since they dont like so much and think that you dont do anything. personally i think you do alot for this forum. i mean we wouldnt have the arcade, the shop, the forum, really anthing without you. oh yeah if you want to make me a mod honestly i dont care if you or dont i'm happy as a normal forum member.

Beowulf
09-09-2005, 08:49 PM
What do you meen people like Beowolf? I merely defend myself.

Serpent
09-09-2005, 08:56 PM
i know but its the fact that when you defend yourself you make the situation worse in some cases. i'm not trying to say its anyone's fault just trying to make a point.

Kaz
09-09-2005, 09:11 PM
I love how you say I do nothing, because I don't continuously close posts and fire shit off at people? You yell at Zim for it, and complain at me for not doing it, you're very good at determining what you want, over the last week and a half I've put up 20+ arcade games, a shop, and cash mod, I'm sorry that I'm the only person that has access to coding the forums, you honestly believe I should trust other people to help me, look at you all, basically backstabbing me, imagine if you were all admins, you'd just start deleting shit. Your opinion is worthless because you back it up with nothing, I've done nothing lately, and I don't give a shit? I have a job, I pay for this site, if I didn't give a shit I wouldnt send out the check. I wouldn't have bought 160$ forum software if I didn't give a shit, and personally I wouldn't be here if I didn't give a shit. Pity you're all such fools.

So much time spent on forum mods and none spent finding out what your members want and allowing them that. I have warned you on several occasions that you/your mods are pissing people off by closing threads that we are interested n when they are clearly not breaking any rules. From what I heard in those conversations, you didn't give a damn. So if you don't give a damn about what the members want, how do you expect to have any?

Serpent
09-09-2005, 09:14 PM
kaz your right but when someone spends money on a forum then basically he cam whatever he wants for the most part.

Kaz
09-09-2005, 09:19 PM
kaz your right but when someone spends money on a forum then basically he cam whatever he wants for the most part.

Yes, he can. But that doesn't mean it will please the members. If you don't please the members, they will leave.

Serpent
09-09-2005, 09:21 PM
true but when someone basically uses his on money to buy software and other stuff for the forum then he still has to talk wit the other members but in the end it is his descision(not to side with GDR).

*edit* cuz i mean you are right that he does have to talk with the members but like GDR said abovr in one of his quites that he does do shit to the forum and right now hes not doing anything to it, which kinda proves GDR's point that he does do shit to the forum and still takes breaks from improving it.

ChiyuRyuu
09-09-2005, 09:23 PM
This arguement is ridiculous.... GDR puts his time and effort into it ppl are debating something like children, I mean come on the topics are broad, where a collection of all ages and ppl can come to talk about anything they want, there are games and things to do here, and we DONT' PAY A DIME FOR IT. It's pointless to argue over this...Think what someone who has never been to the forum b4... I spam out the addy all the time (with certain amount of respect to the server mod) and then someone comes and sees a bunch of ppl argueing... hell I wouldn't join in that, unless I really like to argue but then i wouldn't know anyone so why would I want to join???!! I hate to say it but if you want to leave ... leave and quit messing up the forums.. delete these childish posts and threads and lets focus on recruiting members and getting a clan/brotherely based forum going!!!!
*edit
kaz:ok well how bout we all make a thread or talk about what other ppl want. i agree with GDR he shoudl have sole rights to the software.. but Kaz ur right in the fact that a team will stand taller together... and new ideas will take a load off of the admin...

Kaz
09-09-2005, 09:24 PM
true but when someone basically uses his on money to buy software and other stuff for the forum then he still has to talk wit the other members but in the end it is his descision(not to side with GDR).

Well, if you buy an ice cream store, it is your choice whether you want to sell ice cream or not. However, if you don't sell ice cream...

Serpent
09-09-2005, 09:27 PM
true......i agree with ChiyuRyuu about getting back the gaming bond that we had before and recruite more ppl i mean i would recruite ppl to this forum but i cant play games on this computer, but i can play games when i get my laptop back just not as often.

Kaz
09-09-2005, 09:28 PM
true......i agree with ChiyuRyuu about getting back the gaming bond that we had before and recruite more ppl i mean i would recruite ppl to this forum but i cant play games on this computer, but i can play games when i get my laptop back just not as often.

If Chiyu was right and we could talk about anything, then we wouldn't have the issue. If we talk about something that interests us however, it is closed or deleted.

Serpent
09-09-2005, 09:30 PM
yea i know but like i said on another post i am goin to ask GDR to make me a mod whether it happens i dont know.

Kaz
09-09-2005, 09:33 PM
yea i know but like i said on another post i am goin to ask GDR to make me a mod whether it happens i dont know.

It wont. He only makes self-righteous morons with Nazi tendencies mods. You just don't cut it Serpent. Even so, I'm not completely confident that you would be a good mod if you were hired. some of these others seemed like they'd be good at first only to turn out to ruin the forum.

Serpent
09-09-2005, 09:39 PM
It wont. He only makes self-righteous morons with Nazi tendencies mods. You just don't cut it Serpent. Even so, I'm not completely confident that you would be a good mod if you were hired. some of these others seemed like they'd be good at first only to turn out to ruin the forum.


just curious but why dont you think that i would be a good mod?
i mean like i would close that anoying thread of beowolf and zim bitching at each other for 7 pages almost to 8.

Kaz
09-09-2005, 09:48 PM
just curious but why dont you think that i would be a good mod?
i mean like i would close that anoying thread of beowolf and zim bitching at each other for 7 pages almost to 8.

I think that would be a wise choice. Other than that, just because you haven't been a really active member like some of the others who I really would trust to be mods.

ChiyuRyuu
09-09-2005, 09:48 PM
If wether a topic is closed or not bothers you Kaz then we shoudl vote on it... How about we get soem orginisation here... any team/clan whatever has some sort of hyarchy... a voting scheme to avoid complications. What if we had a forum voting Thread only allowed for forum members... theres a poll option... the topic could be brought before the moderator and then posted by the moderator to be voted on... It would work perfect... if we all agree to let the results be final.

Kaz
09-09-2005, 09:50 PM
If wether a topic is closed or not bothers you Kaz then we shoudl vote on it... How about we get soem orginisation here... any team/clan whatever has some sort of hyarchy... a voting scheme to avoid complications. What if we had a forum voting Thread only allowed for forum members... theres a poll option... the topic could be brought before the moderator and then posted by the moderator to be voted on... It would work perfect... if we all agree to let the results be final.

Yeah, so we can vote on each topic, whether to close or delete or move it? Every post?

Unrealistic. Nice thought though.

I tried talking to the mods and admin which seemed like a good idea to do if I disagree with it being closed. The answer I get? Well, it was something equal to about 'too fucking bad'.

ChiyuRyuu
09-09-2005, 09:57 PM
that's a topic... what classifications will mods be allowed to close/lock posts?
a. spamming, (as in one person starting a thread and spamming the posts by them selves

b. no reason to lock/close any post.. this is an open forum... let it stay that way.

c. if ppl are swearing in a debate that would be better suited over im's

d. if the topic is not related to the material and the thread has been moved once already

e. option a and d

f. option a , c, d

g. option well hell etc... etc... you get the picture

*edit who are teh mods and what threads do they govern???

Shootaz
09-09-2005, 10:29 PM
Well, id ask to be a mod, seeing as ive been here alot longer than most people here and also id only close topics if they were offensive or dangerous. If 2 people are bitching at each other let them bitch whats the harm? just dont read the post. but im also leaving these forums for good now if something dosent end this mess.

ChiyuRyuu
09-09-2005, 11:05 PM
I'd like to be mod over the pc discussions.... we shoudl vote wadda say GDR watcha wanna do??

*edit make the mods ,. make the forum voting thread then make some topics for voting to end all of this... I liked it better when we where clicking ads and talking about gaming and things... the additions are way cooler now we need to get back on track

Serpent
09-09-2005, 11:09 PM
i've been here since about 3 or 4 months after bosko did and hes a mod and hes not on right now or hasnt been for like a month and before that he was away at bible camp or somethign like that and i've been on ALOT. not to mention i tend to handle a conversation pretty well. so i think i'd be a good Mod since i can see right thru most ppl's posts and stuff.

ChiyuRyuu
09-09-2005, 11:11 PM
well fine dude... let's put our votes in who's on waht... then make the topic rulz for closing /locking... all dissisions are final and must past through the mods for voting allowing GDR to veto it

*edit... GDR on TS not atm... might be busy doing something...

Serpent
09-09-2005, 11:14 PM
i'll agree with that but GDR is offline right now but i think he may be on the teamspeak server now not sure since i cant download anything on my dad's comp.

GenDeathRaiser
09-10-2005, 12:07 AM
I'll be needing mods, but if you just told me I don't do shit for you then don't even bother. Xprowl will probably be knocked off since he doesn't show up, Zim's basically Kaz as a mod so he's gone, so yes I'll be looking for more, and Boskos been gone some time, so I'll see what's up. The forum emailing shit now works, so instead of saying omgz why is /isn't this locked click the exclamation point (report post) in the upper right of the post, and give reasons then I can get right on it.

Serpent
09-10-2005, 12:22 AM
cool but leave bosko as a mod since he has a reason why he cant get on(hurricane katrina) but like i said he should be on in about a month or hopefully sooner just depends on whether his house is intact or just needing phones and power. but if you are looking for mods i want to put my name in the hat so to speak.

Kaz
09-10-2005, 12:23 AM
I'll be needing mods, but if you just told me I don't do shit for you then don't even bother. Xprowl will probably be knocked off since he doesn't show up, Zim's basically Kaz as a mod so he's gone, so yes I'll be looking for more, and Boskos been gone some time, so I'll see what's up. The forum emailing shit now works, so instead of saying omgz why is /isn't this locked click the exclamation point (report post) in the upper right of the post, and give reasons then I can get right on it.

Even better, I messaged you on AIM on several occasions and was told that you wont do anything about it. How will this be different?

GenDeathRaiser
09-10-2005, 12:25 AM
You emailed me earlier and boom I was on it, you're a cunt rag, that still hasn't changed stop being a douche and criticizing everyone and then sucking up asshole to the single woman on the forum, you never gave her shit, if it was a dude you'd be pinning him down like another prick.

Serpent
09-10-2005, 12:27 AM
lol sorry kaz but hes right, not to suck up or anything.

Kaz
09-10-2005, 12:53 AM
You emailed me earlier and boom I was on it, you're a cunt rag, that still hasn't changed stop being a douche and criticizing everyone and then sucking up asshole to the single woman on the forum, you never gave her shit, if it was a dude you'd be pinning him down like another prick.

I e-mailed you? About what?

Every time I tried to talk to you on AIM about something, you blew it off in arrogance.

By the way, are you talking about Trixie? I do a lot for her...

---

I resent that comment about me being like Zim as a mod. I have moderated several extremely popular forums and done very well, mind you.

Lefty
09-10-2005, 02:15 AM
prfft make me a mod. Everyone loves me, and im here every day.

Kaz
09-10-2005, 02:46 AM
Weird. I never see you.

Beowulf
09-10-2005, 06:17 AM
just curious but why dont you think that i would be a good mod?
i mean like i would close that anoying thread of beowolf and zim bitching at each other for 7 pages almost to 8.

If you haven't noticed, the issue is closed.

Lefty
09-10-2005, 06:53 AM
just because i dont post as much as yourself doesn't mean i am not around.

Zim
09-10-2005, 06:56 AM
To be honest, you seem like you aren't around much, and the last thing this forum needs is another mod that barely comes here. No offense intended.

Lefty
09-10-2005, 07:46 AM
to tell ya the truth the only reason not many of you would see me in the online list is because of time difference, i usually check the new posts every couple hours or so then if i feel the need to post i post and then leave for another few hours.

Remo
09-10-2005, 08:17 AM
if anything`s wrong its the ppl here that whine and bitch on each other. I been trying to refer ppl here naturally they look and see all the bitching and leave without even makeing a account!

Tommi
09-10-2005, 08:58 AM
lol I think its funny how everyone can say stuff about the forums and soon as GDR talks about making new mods ect they all ask =P whats with the whole power thing anyway?

ChiyuRyuu
09-10-2005, 09:18 AM
if anything`s wrong its the ppl here that whine and bitch on each other. I been trying to refer ppl here naturally they look and see all the bitching and leave without even makeing a account!

tx for reiterating that point Remo !^^!

GenDeathRaiser
09-10-2005, 10:08 AM
Hai I'm gonna close this with this note:

If you want to leave, please, leave. I'm not responsible for your fighting with other members, it's not my job to play babysitter and discipline you for it, if you have to continuously go at eachother like this, it's your problem. It's also not my job to work on the forums, so I'm not here 8 hours each day, it's my job to work at Taco Bell unfortunately, so I'm there 8 hours a day, it's also my job to learn, so I'm at school, 7 hours a day. Thanks.

And Kaz, this E-mail which is auto generated when you report a post:


Kaz ( mailto:zomg censored ) has reported this post:


http://LeetNetwork.com/showthread.php?postid=3363#post3363

This is part of this thread:
so whose the better player kaz or ara?
http://LeetNetwork.com/showthread.php?threadid=335

This is the reason that the user gave:
I was under the impression that you moderators liked to close threads that were pointless or misplaced. Or maybe only MY threads. If you want to be good moderators though, be unbias and check out this one. You can either close it or move it to flaming, but something should be done with it. It's worse than any I've ever made.

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