Vampire

[J A M]

hey im curently working im my vamp wanna train with me go hunting etc talk to me my in-game name is Froze

[J A M]

lol fuck vamps they suck dick slayer FTW!!!!!!!!!!!

[Recon]

Wtf? You made me lol-ed.

First you said about vamps, now you talked about slayers being better.

Ha. Ha.

[Raikoh]

lmao....uh?

[J A M]

i didnt know how good camps were theres like barly any english vamps

[Recon]

Ive never liked vamps/ousters.

Slayers all the way..

[J A M]

yes recon do u play japan?

[katlany]

you can say vampir are weak we win slayer and ouster in all the war and we build for 1v1 fight...slayer are build for party kill and we steal kick your ass in the war even so the last wars were quite good for slayer.

[Fables]

Race Wars are pretty much built for vampires. It's kinda sad. :p

[katlany]

why cuz we do blood wall?what about the gunner and camp with lvl 130 skill and enchate that use the green thing that make vampir not do darkness i dont think its true what you say.and btw in japan thar is more slayer than vampir you can see at in thar city and in the war but i not so sure i just think thar is more.

[Fables]

why cuz we do blood wall?what about the gunner and camp with lvl 130 skill and enchate that use the green thing that make vampir not do darkness i dont think its true what you say.and btw in japan thar is more slayer than vampir you can see at in thar city and in the war but i not so sure i just think thar is more.

I meant its built more towards them because of the amount of darkness they can cast.

Yes, enchanters have True Lightness which they can see into darkness but still, that's one slayer out of 5. :p

[Bornholm]

why cuz we do blood wall?what about the gunner and camp with lvl 130 skill and enchate that use the green thing that make vampir not do darkness i dont think its true what you say.and btw in japan thar is more slayer than vampir you can see at in thar city and in the war but i not so sure i just think thar is more.

The answer why vamps are better in race war at DE.jp is quite obvious. There could be more slayers, but vamps have advantage in higher levels. Its gradually getting better for slayers, but some of 150s seem not to like going to wars after they were raped by vamps many times before. People tend to say slayers are good in a party. Might be true, but it means all the party members must be skilled enough and know what to do. Teamwork is essential. On the other hand vampires dont need so much cooperation, or its easier to learn the few tricks they do.

[Jamesns]

The answer why vamps are better in race war at DE.jp is quite obvious. There could be more slayers, but vamps have advantage in higher levels. Its gradually getting better for slayers, but some of 150s seem not to like going to wars after they were raped by vamps many times before. People tend to say slayers are good in a party. Might be true, but it means all the party members must be skilled enough and know what to do. Teamwork is essential. On the other hand vampires dont need so much cooperation, or its easier to learn the few tricks they do.

I'm not entirely sure about the differences in the japan verson, but vampires were alot easier to level in international, thats why I think I like vampires but is it different in this one? im like level 17, going full strength :p.

I have a 101 vampire in international still, afraid to logon might get deleted :(

[J A M]

it is because vamps are stronger alone but when u try to take on a slayer party with vamp party ur ass is owned

[Barny]

every vamp can reveive and heal every other vamp from death, thats enough to make vampres better then slayers cause only healers can do that

[Serpent]

plus any blood skill takes more dmg than normal since not alot of slayers have alot or no blood resistance,curse,acid,etc.. lol moju is kinda a joke since max you can get is +9 per item which assuming they have a full set of moju at +9(by full set i mean everything that you have on is moju) max is 117 for bladers,gunner,chanters,healers and 126 for sworders but since most ppl barely have +7s or even +5s with a full set chances are slayers will fall 90% of the time unless the vamps attacking are complete morons.

Vamps Ftw

[Bornholm]

plus any blood skill takes more dmg than normal since not alot of slayers have alot or no blood resistance,curse,acid,etc.. lol moju is kinda a joke since max you can get is +9 per item which assuming they have a full set of moju at +9(by full set i mean everything that you have on is moju) max is 117 for bladers,gunner,chanters,healers and 126 for sworders but since most ppl barely have +7s or even +5s with a full set chances are slayers will fall 90% of the time unless the vamps attacking are complete morons.

Vamps Ftw

Yes, in my opinion vamps are generally better most of the time. Its partially cause they are more universal and can escape from fight they are loosing more easily. And that thing about slayer parties being better than vamp parties ... it was true mainly on DE.int, i think (its not easy to compare this though, cause pvp on DE.int and DE.jp is completely different story).

[martin1988]

Maybe you should stop trying to kill vamps and team up with them to kill outsiders! GOD DAMN i hate outsiders so much i wish they'd all piss off and die!

[Serpent]

you mean ousters?

they arent that bad actually makes the game somewhat more fun 2 races to kill instead of the slayer vs vamp battle.

[PandaDude]

Maybe you should stop trying to kill vamps and team up with them to kill outsiders! GOD DAMN i hate outsiders so much i wish they'd all piss off and die!

Arg freaking slayers. Im playing my Ouster, lvling, staying to myself and this slayer whos a high lvl come up and starts attacking me. So i kill him, and he comes back, I kill him again, and so now he comes up to me attacks me, runs back heals, trys to attack me again starts getting owned runs away again comes back 5 seconds later... this lasts for about another 5 minutes where he cant kill me and runs away everytime he's about to die. So finally i have to sylph it outta there and ditch his ass cuse its hard to lvl when an annoying sworder is fucking with you. >.<

But yeah I agree that ousters arnt as bad as people think. We just need a better english patch for them =(

[Serpent]

well as soon as someone hex edits the files there will be a english patch for ousters,vamps,etc.. i may try to do it but i need the editor,a guide, and a translator.

[katlany]

i dont like ouster i think thay make the game better but i cant stand tham i dont even know why i just hate tham.

[Serpent]

in de jap they lvl easily even though de jap has a crappy xp rate i got mine to like lvl 30 in about a few hours but when i played vamp and slayer took me about 5-15 days to get to lvl 30.

i think it depends on the ouster that comes at you cuz combat ousters(the ones i've seen anyway) die really easily, but the earth and water ones are a bit harder but can still be taken down fairly easily same with fire since as fables said there arent alot of ppl who build their ouster right or know how to use it.

[PandaDude]

in de jap they lvl easily even though de jap has a crappy xp rate i got mine to like lvl 30 in about a few hours but when i played vamp and slayer took me about 5-15 days to get to lvl 30.

i think it depends on the ouster that comes at you cuz combat ousters(the ones i've seen anyway) die really easily, but the earth and water ones are a bit harder but can still be taken down fairly easily same with fire since as fables said there arent alot of ppl who build their ouster right or know how to use it.

where did u go to get to lvl 30 that fast? it took me about a day 10-15 hours just to get to lvl 22 maybe even more.
I think why people dont like to play ousters is because they are harder to play. For example... you cant get every skill they have and you have to decide which ones you want to lvl, where as Slayers you can get all the skills in the class you choose and you dont have to spend skill points to lvl the skill up. Vampires you can get all the skills and dont have to lvl them. And to add a bit more of confusion you have to have the (cant remember what the actual name is) but the Elemental lvls, so if you want to go with two skills you will have to divide the 25 elemental point (if i have lvl 5 items[items that add points to you elemental powers or w/e] which are the 4 stone and the wristlets) into the elements you want. Plus you cant pick if ya wanna be male or female =P

So what i have seen is that the ousters are not really a good noobie character.. and they do get picked on by the other races

[Serpent]

well you actually have 4 choices when it comes to ousters cuz combat is fairly stright foreward its when you get to water,fire and earth where it gets more complicated cuz you have to get stones relating to your magic type(earth,water,fire stones) i had a combat ouster but the skills i had were kinda wierd and didnt always hit even though i had like a shitload of ToHit items on like +2s and +3s.

oh and i mainly stuck to temerie and killed the golomer bosses and big fang bosses that spawned.

[J A M]

heh?